SieMak Podcasts
Welcome to SieMak Podcasts. A family of podcasts of different sorts for different tastes.
Ancasts - brings two long time friends, Anthony & Andrew, that want to get into your head. Tony and Prof. Drew talk about everything from their kids, tech, pop culture, sports....really everything. It's like sitting with them in a room, a car, a pub. You'll find yourself wanting to hang out with them all the time. This is your opportunity to hang with them once a week. Do it.
Cause I Wanna Know - brings stories of people. In depth conversations that peel back what makes them tick and what has inspired them and moved them in the direction that they have forged.
Generation (XZ) Pop - is a father & daughter, Tony & Makayla, that talks all things pop culture from a perspective of Generation X and Z.
The Shellee & Kelly Podcast - brings another duo. The ladies talk wine, their book club for two, tv shows and much more.
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The Humorous Blend of Parenthood and Technology's Rapid March
Ever handed down a solemn vow to quit swearing during adrenaline-pumped gaming, only to let a choice word slip at the heat of the moment? We've all been there, and this episode isn't shying away from the gritty realities of self-improvement, faith, and the occasional f-bomb. Revel in the tales of our children's academic pursuits, the naming of group chats (or the lack thereof), and the laugh-out-loud moments that come from guiding teenagers as diverse and vibrant as a box of crayons through the coloring book of life.
Meanwhile, in the tech corner, we're gushing over the latest gizmos like the Apple Vision Pro and pondering the unstoppable march of innovation. It's a trip down memory lane, juxtaposing rotary phones with the magic of augmented reality, and debating the role of AI in our future workplaces. Plus, we've got a mystery on our hands with the case of the indestructible gaming chair that wasn't so indestructible. Buckle up for a journey filled with humor, bewilderment, and the occasional tech-induced head-scratcher that reminds us why keeping up with the times isn't just a hobby—it's an adventure.
Hey, welcome back to the Yanscast. What's?
Speaker 3:up, drew. What up, what up. You know, I had somebody ask me the other day and some stream thing that I was, that I watch. I watched this streamer and somebody asked the question are you? First of all, the person writes are you, irl, a professor? I hate it when, just just put in real life, right, or are you really a professor, right, don't, we don't need IRL it. I'm listening to the streamer also and he says he says I'm playing with some IRL friends. It's, it's like IRL is now a thing right now, and they have to say it. My daughter says it all the time. It's like it's, it's something that now, because it's popular, we need to say that, right, but anyways, they, they asked it well, they're saying the whole sentence to begin with, so why are we just not?
Speaker 3:saying the words. Why are we just not saying the words? I don't understand where it's like kids like, for instance, let's, let's, let's finish the story, but anyways said, are you? And I said, no, I just go by professor on a podcast. That I do. I'm not really a professor, right? I mean, I wouldn't want to be, first of all, I wouldn't be able to teach kids, I'd want to break necks and so in. Second I, teachers, I feel like, have to live in that world that we talk about, where they have to kind of toe the line, they have to appease both sides, and I'm not going to appease both sides. So but to go back to the cutting thing short, it's like it's like a fortnight. They came out with an og fortnight and I was like og.
Speaker 3:Well, og stands for original gangster yeah right, I think some people say original if you look it up, it says original gangster, right, so it it's like that's what the og was originally, right, right. And now they're calling it the og fortnight and I'm like so that's the original gangster fortnight. They're like no, it's just the og fortnight, og now just means original. And I'm like, I'm like you can't just keep shortening shit that's not the way it works.
Speaker 2:You can't just like it's it, change the meaning, I think in my head I know that they mean original. That's what they're going for. I get it but I think the same thing. I don't say it, but I'll I'll. It's just so automatic that we know that it means original gangster. Yeah, that that's what plays in my head when I hear it, but I know that kids use it as original.
Speaker 2:It's so weird like they just, they just shorten every that one, that one I will use once in a while og I'll use that like in in what the kids how they use it.
Speaker 3:Now I never say irl yeah no, I mean, I remember when it used to be like, hey, what's up right, and then we went to SUP right, and then the, and then the kids. A while back we're just doing SUH what do we go back to caveman with those. Yeah, we're doing that, we're, we're pressing what are we doing? Our intelligence is regressing. It's like we went from what's up to SUHP right, because it's. I mean, it's close, it's got it.
Speaker 2:And to SUH, do you? So? Here's a question for you. Do you think it's lazy or efficient?
Speaker 2:well, I mean, if I'm thinking of, if I'm thinking of kids these days, I'm thinking it's lazy I'm thinking it's because, like they could be more advanced than us, though maybe it's for efficiency. I mean, some would argue, you know, if you don't want to work, make it more efficient. So you work. You know work less, not harder yeah kind of thing, yeah, yeah so I guess you could, like lazy people will, try to figure out how, to you know, shorten it so they don't have to. Here's where I can get on board.
Speaker 3:Oh no, here's where I can get on board okay, I can get on board with if you're texting somebody, texting IRL, because that's just three letters, right, but when you're talking in person and you say I'm playing, with some IRL friends that. Just say you sound like an idiot. Just say I'm playing with some, with some people that I know in real life. You, you're just talking. It's just more words that you're saying, but it's not. It's not like your fingers got a text, but wouldn't you?
Speaker 2:in real life.
Speaker 3:Think if he just said I'm not, I'm playing with some friends, or some close friends even yes, or friends, you would know they're gonna know that he means in real life friends like if you're, if it's not real life, then you're obviously gonna be saying I'm playing with some, I'm playing with the chat community or something like you it so he's thinking he's shortening it.
Speaker 2:He's actually being redundant, correct, almost well, maybe not redundant, but he's adding things that don't need to be added.
Speaker 3:Right, because we can assume that all the people in the chat are not really like friends with yeah, they're followers they're just followers, right now there are people that I play with on PlayStation that I've never met, and I would consider them a friend like we're we're buddies. I mean, we've been playing together for years, right so?
Speaker 2:but you don't know them in real life. Don't know them because you never know. I guess there's that aspect too like he.
Speaker 3:He probably has friends that he's met over the years, streaming just playing that. He's saying I'm not playing with some friends as in like people that I've met, I'm playing with people that I actually know in real life, but as what I'm saying is, he's on stream and he's talking you when people are talking. Or my daughter's talking to me and she says IRL, just say the words, just say in real life how much I get.
Speaker 2:I want to know how much time will is going to lapse between IRL and in real life? Correct? It's almost. It's not. You're not saving. What are you saving? Correct? You're not really. I mean it almost. You know. I'm gonna take back my efficient because it's really not. I guess if, like you're saying, if you're texting, I would get that. Yes, because you want to do it quick when you start speaking your text, that's a no go, yeah when you say it yeah, because you're not saving time you're saving time texting your finger unless you just speak it.
Speaker 2:You know, speak the text. And I know I mean like if it's something's funny.
Speaker 3:You just say oh, that's so funny, you don't go laugh out loud.
Speaker 1:Emoji right, I mean you're not crying emoji.
Speaker 3:You don't say that like who's saying lol, just laugh if you're, if it's funny. Or just say, dude, that's real funny.
Speaker 2:I should start doing that. Somebody says does something funny, crying really hard not to laugh and just say lol, I'm gonna actually print out emojis and have a pocket and I'll just pull them out and hold them.
Speaker 3:There'll be my little cards. That'll be my emotions. If I'm, if I'm sad, I'll pull out a sad emoji. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I just like a cry, hold it up like a sad part people are like what are you doing?
Speaker 3:I'm like that would really go back.
Speaker 2:That's basically putting signs on a wall. I mean, we've really just regressed all the way back to cave man days yes, yes, yes, yes yes.
Speaker 3:I mean and then you just point at the picture.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you think about it, that's what we're doing, right. I mean we're break it down. We've developed in in in language all these thousands of years, yes, and now we've got phones. So now we're typing words. Now we're shortening words yep. Now we're doing the first letters. I would love Michaela in here for this. Now we're going to first letters of words. Yep, or shortening words to a sound, yeah or bruh, yeah, or a or a picture. Sierra says bruh, all the time bruh which I think is funny but then, but we also do emojis.
Speaker 2:Yep to, so we're. We're really literally regressing back to putting signs and pictures on a wall, correct?
Speaker 3:yes.
Speaker 2:I mean, I mean this is old news because we've been doing it since we've had smartphones, yep, yep, I mean. And they just keep coming out with more and more images and people do just talk. Like when Matt rule came to Nebraska that first, like within a couple of months, he was doing all these little emojis and fans were trying to. It was kind of just a fun thing. Fans were trying to figure out what he was saying yeah, but it was. That's all it was was just emojis.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like if he was like recruiting he'd go like an airplane and then maybe a picture that represented this state or close to it, just with emojis right so I mean, it's been happening for a while, but we are really I don't know if I ever or maybe I have in the past but it is really just like regressing back to, you know, down to sounds and pictures, yep, yep, and, and just letters. It's so, it's crazy, it's just it's. But you know, and I think we've may have talked about this before I, in a text, 98% of the time I will use full words and proper punctuation. That I learned at the business school I went to before we were married. That's when I really learned how to use commas and periods and exclamation points and all of that. All of my texts are the way they should be structured and I'll put in the comma.
Speaker 3:I'll put it yeah, yeah, yeah me because it really doesn't.
Speaker 2:I don't care, no matter. Yeah, I know you don't. I don't think it really. There's not a really any, there's not anybody that I text that uses a lot of like punctuation. Yep, yeah, like proper, you know punctuation like if I, if I.
Speaker 3:One thing that I'm really bad at is that if I am asking a question zero question marks zero I'll be like what do you want? Right and and somebody that once in a while somebody will read it and I'll be, and they'll be, and they'll be like what? I'll get that back from people and I'll be like oh, I didn't put a question mark, so don't know that.
Speaker 2:I'm asking a question a lot of times I will ask a question, just put a period on accident, but just because I'm doing it so fast and sometimes I'll go back. Now that you can edit, I'll go back and do a question mark. So yeah, I don't miss the love, the edit you know what else I love about text messaging?
Speaker 3:and we're just, we're just ranting and raving at this point but this is what this is, what a podcast does is.
Speaker 3:I love that now Android and iPhone can work together. So if you're in a group text, so I hated group text messages with Android phones and iPhone because iPhone could do all the stuff right. You could edit messages, you could reply to certain comments. Now Android and iPhone are together on that. So, like I'm in a group text with three guys that I play with and Prodigy he has an Android, but now it's allowed to where you can actually tag, you can edit your comment when you text, or you can tag their comment from the person on the Android and reply to that comment. So it's cool that like we're finally getting to where the two can mesh together, because that was always an issue, right?
Speaker 2:you know what? My favorite part of that is what they're? They're better communication people that I'm in a group with which is not very many with Android. I can name the group now, which I love. Oh, you can name the group yeah, yeah, you can name the group.
Speaker 3:I love that it's finally it's come to. I mean, I do I love naming.
Speaker 2:I think I have a name for every little friend group, so if it's like four people or six, I name all of them. I hate it. Nobody else cares.
Speaker 3:The one with me and my wife and you and your wife. I removed the name.
Speaker 2:You removed it and I never went back and you never went, so there's no name to it. I think that one is actually OG to go full circle.
Speaker 3:You have a conversation, you told me one day that you have a name for every group message thing that you have, and I'm like I'm removing my shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I never put one back in. I don't want it. So now you're just lost.
Speaker 3:Yep. Now you're just lost. Perfect, you want to keep that group on the top of your list? Fuck and pin it. Nope, I just dropped an F bomb.
Speaker 1:See, I tried, I tried not to You're getting wound up.
Speaker 3:I try not to, and then I just start to.
Speaker 2:it's comes, it's just a while inside of me. Yes, I run. Yeah, the things I do. Run you when I jump on.
Speaker 3:PlayStation to play at night in Warzone. I am thinking to myself today is going to be a good day. I'm not going to do a meet, not 30 seconds in I'm dropping F bombs. It's just. Oh yeah, it's just. It's just, they're just flinging out my kids. They could be in the room. They. They know his headsets on. If my headset is on and I'm playing a game, no one is in the room. There could be 30 people in there, don't care. I'm dropping things the way I would.
Speaker 2:If I'm playing in there, I do a lot more than I do in the. It's the office. Yeah it's gaming or the office with you guys. Yeah primarily, primarily with you, otherwise they don't come out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I can control it. It's just when I'm gaming, I mean, listen, I tell people. I tell people all the time I love the Lord and I have a heart. I have a heart for that, right, I love Jesus, I believe in that, but I have a potty mouth. Other people struggle with other things. You know, rick can't feel. So other people struggle with other things. Mine, I cuss, and I don't really care that I cuss it is what it is. I don't feel like I'm not going to make it into heaven because I cuss.
Speaker 2:It is what it is. I say a lot of bad words too, yeah.
Speaker 3:Let it be. Let it be. I do have a story real quick. I thought it was kind of fun. I want to state this by starting with the fact that I'm very proud of my kids, all three of them, very proud of what they're doing and what they're doing in their lives.
Speaker 3:My youngest son really into sports. He goes early. He does zero period. The kid is just completely focused into getting all his stuff done so he can go to college. He will be probably the only kid that I have that goes to college because he's really focused. What grade is he in? He's a freshman and he already has. He's a freshman and he already has all of his. I think at the end of this first year he's going to have all his language done, because I think he did both. He's going to have all of his PE done. He's going to have all of his. I can't remember. He's gotten. Like the end of his freshman year he's going to have like three things that he won't have to touch it again for the rest of the time that he's in high school.
Speaker 3:What can it do? Running start? He's a junior, he might, he might, he's super focused, I mean he's zero period. He's doing weightlifting, Plus he has an advanced whatever it's called If he is that focused and really wants to?
Speaker 2:if he's, is he talking about college?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean first.
Speaker 3:So they have it online now, where originally you'd have to go and talk with your counselor and all this stuff. Now they have it online and it actually shows what you have to do to get into colleges and you can choose. He was when he was in eighth grade. He's in the middle of his eighth grade year. He was at home with his online thing for high school going. This is what I want to do, because I've got to plan out, so he was already planning before his freshman year.
Speaker 3:I love that what he was going to do, so he's, he doesn't stress.
Speaker 2:Does he stress about stuff? You know how kids that are like that can over stress and over analyze and over think.
Speaker 3:He did come to me the other day and he said you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm talking about. Yeah.
Speaker 3:He did come to me the other day and he said should I take advanced geometry, advanced geometry? And he goes. I'm really concerned that I might struggle with that. And I said I told him. I said, listen, you're the kind of kid that all the classes that you've taken you've kind of told me that they bore you because that's, they're pretty easy. I said so, challenge yourself, take advanced geometry, challenge yourself, otherwise you're going to take a lesser class. Yeah, you'll get the credit and move forward. But you're going to tell yourself you're going to, you're going to come to me and you're going to say I'm bored with it. Because that's kind of. I mean, his eighth grade year he was getting straight A's and I was like dude, really Like looking at him, like because I never got straight A's, like I'm really proud of him, but I'm like, at the same time, I'm like pitching him shit about it Right, right, really Sure.
Speaker 3:And he's. And he looked at me and he's like dad, I'm bored, like it was. It was like I'm just running through and it's nothing, just gets it. So I'm really proud of him. My, my daughter struggled her sophomore and junior year. We thought there might be some F's in there as far as grades. This year, her senior year, I think, she has all A's and B's and like one C. So really proud of her. She's really putting in the work to get the work done. As far as wanting to leave school every day, she struggles with that. She wants to leave school every day. I think she asked me every day if she'd come home from school, dang near. And then my oldest super proud of him because he's super focused on work. He has something that not a lot of young people have, which is he knows to be on time and he knows that 15 minutes early is on time, yeah, and if you show up on time, you're late. He has that mentality.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he kind of has the old school work ethic?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he works his butt off. He's working for like Firehouse, but he puts in his hours. He gets almost 50 hours a week. I mean he puts in his work and wherever he goes whether it was Papa Murphy's, which is a pizza place for anybody who's not here, that doesn't is listening. Firehouse is a sub shop. Usually, a lot of Firehouse is everywhere, but wherever he goes, people want him to work for them because, he works his butt off.
Speaker 3:So really proud of all of them. That being said, the oldest comes home, so I'm really proud of all of them, just so we're clear. So everybody knows, I don't not like my kids. I love my kids and I'm proud of all of them, but they do some weird shit, as kids do. One comes, the oldest comes home, and he's like, he's like, yeah, I was just really rough because we, you know, when he comes home, usually me and Annie are hanging out on the couch. We're like, hey, how was your job? Or whatever.
Speaker 3:How was work? Usually I ask him how was work? And what's really cool is, as he's gotten older, I feel like me and him just are connecting more, Like it's just like we're just kind of like buddies. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It's like we're connecting more, and really it has a lot to do with the fact that he's 20 now. So I mean, it's like he's living his life. I can encourage him and guide him and give him things you know how it is, I mean your daughter's older I can encourage and do all that, but in reality he's going to be the one to make the decisions. So really, yeah, I can give him some things that I would recommend for him to do, but outside of that, it's like we'll just go to the movies together. We'll you know, I took my boys to go see, you know, beekeeper or we'll watch a movie at night, or I'll just talk with him like it's we can just be buddies, basically it's. I love how that relationship is developing as he's getting older, but he still does some weird stuff.
Speaker 3:For instance, comes home the other night and I was like, hey, I was working. And he's like, yeah, it was, it's a weird day to day. And my glasses broke and and Annie goes, your glass is broke. And he goes yeah, they just fell off my face. And I go, I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2:He can't see my face.
Speaker 3:I'm kind of looking like and I go let us play out I go what? And he goes. Yeah, it's not like I dropped him on the ground and they broke. They just like fell apart and fell off my face, Okay and it's all. I'm like that doesn't happen. That's just weird.
Speaker 2:He's making it sound like they like disintegrated into parts and fell off. He's like, he's like. So I gotta go up to the.
Speaker 3:I gotta go up to the eyeglasses place and probably see if they can. You know cause I think I got a warranty on first of all you bought those glasses like three years ago.
Speaker 1:Highly doubt they have a warranty and you've already replaced them once, right.
Speaker 3:So I don't know if that's the case, but he's like yeah, you got to go up there and and see if they can replace them, because I think I got a warranty on them. And it is all I'm thinking in my head is I don't care about the warranty on all that, I'm just trying to figure out how they just so you, you had your glasses on your face and weren't just all you were doing was standing there making your sandwiches at work, and your glasses, just they just fell apart. Just the screws came out, everything, just they. Just that's how we made it sound Right.
Speaker 2:That's how it sounds to me, yes.
Speaker 3:So I go over and I look on the counter and the arms are the same and the arm is off and the you know how glasses are with the arm. They got the two little and they slide in together and then you screw down, and that's what. That's a tiny screw, but all those things are gone. They're broke off Like it's. It's so either you broke them beforehand and then tried to kind of put them back together, and then, while you were wearing them at work, it just kind of jimmied and fell off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:But you made it seem like your glasses were perfectly put together with screws and everything, yeah, and they just they just fell apart. Right, that doesn't happen, right it? Weird stories like that I just don't like it. Why not just say, well, I broke my glasses beforehand, I tried to put them back together, but then they just fell off. And but you're making it seem like this is just, they disagree, an odd it just. It reminds me of people who go into, like, a store to return something. They're like I got to return this. It just doesn't. It just doesn't work and it's like what do you mean? It's just. It's when people bring their iPhones to me and they go yeah, I don't know what's going on. It just it just doesn't work. It just how can I? I don't understand. It's just not. I don't have that issue.
Speaker 3:I've never had that issue, so what? Did you do to make that happen? And they always and they always go. I didn't do anything. You're leaving something out. You did something, You're leaving something out. There's a step that you left out and in the way you're telling the story, I can tell it's like reading a book and somebody just ripped out 15 pages. I'm missing something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Cause the way we think it's like okay, well, that that doesn't really make sense, that that's never happened. In my 46 years of living, or 50 years of living, I've never seen that happen. So how does that? They're like there's some genuine curiosity, Right. There's. That doesn't make any sense, and there's, I think you're leaving something out. So, and then, and then our what you and I do is we want every step.
Speaker 1:What exactly?
Speaker 2:Correct. What are the details here? Right, because it's not computing and I don't think it's to give them a hard time. I don't do it for that reason. No, I'm confused. Yeah, so walk me through this Walk me through every step. Cause. I'm not. I'm not getting this, I don't understand, and it can sound like we're being an asshole, but it's really not cause, it's just. This is not computing.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:You're omitting things, something's going on.
Speaker 3:It's got to be yes. Another example I had a game and they don't get that. They did.
Speaker 2:Well, or I mean, I guess if, if he broken before and he's already replaced him once, he may not want to tell you guys that cause. Here's the two.
Speaker 3:Here's the two. This is what you just said. They don't get it's. Either they don't get it or they're. It's like they're trying to. I don't know if they're trying to hide something. Yeah, it's like lying biomitting or they're just saying it and they don't understand that they're leaving a whole. They're leaving like one chapter out. I want to know it's, I'm like I'm curious about that. So another example.
Speaker 2:What is?
Speaker 3:that gaming chair. I bought myself a gaming chair. I think it was from the same company that you're sitting in yours Autofill, yeah, autofill, autofill. So, I bought it and I specifically went on their website and I ordered the, the extra large heavy duty cause. I'm a bigger guy. I want the one that's going to hold 450 pounds or less right, it was just to know you're not 450.
Speaker 1:No, I'm not 450, but I want the big because I'm a bigger, taller guy.
Speaker 3:I like the bigger because the littler ones when I sit in them they kind of make me feel like I'm a little you know, and so I want the bigger chair. I since then I've bought a new chair from secret labs. Secret labs has the best chair gaming chairs hand down. They're. I mean, you look at any streamer, they're usually behind them. You can see it says secret labs. They're probably sitting in secret labs chair. They're expensive but they're the best. And I even then I ordered and you can order an extra large version of their chair which is the bigger, heavier duty chair. Of course I order that one because I'm a bigger dude.
Speaker 2:So I want to be.
Speaker 1:I want the comfort.
Speaker 3:So I had this chair, but originally I moved out of where I was sitting. I was in my closet. At one point we moved out because we ended up redoing our closet, so I got out of there. I had my setup downstairs. Well, I was using this other chair, so I didn't need my gaming chair, logan's gaming chair.
Speaker 3:He had peeled all the leathery stuff off all over his armrest, his seat, the back of his chair and it was just a disaster. So I said let's throw that away and you can have my heavy duty full auto one or auto full one, which is really. I mean, I sat in the thing for years and it was in perfect conditions. So I give it to him Fast forward six months. Okay, I mean we're talking six months. I go in his room and he's like this chair is broke and it's like and the bolts are like broke, the chair is like leaning off to the side and I'm just looking at it. I'm missing about 15 chapters here. Yes, I gave it to you. It was in perfect, brand new condition. Right Six months later, this thing looks destroyed and bolts are broke. Yeah, I'm missing.
Speaker 3:You took me from the beginning of the story right to the end and I'm missing all the stuff in between. So I'm looking at him, I'm like, and I just said to him I go, I can't compute that and I just yeah, out of his room.
Speaker 1:I can't do it.
Speaker 2:I you just told me you're skipping, like what happened and I think as a dad I don't have and mind you my son's like 150 pounds. Yeah he's.
Speaker 3:He's tiny, yeah, skinny and tall. So I went in and tell my wife I'm like, is he, is he like running a circus on his chair? I don't understand what he's doing.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the thing is, you see, it's such a door wrestling? Yeah, it's such a drastic Thing that happened to this chair like it's, like it's so dramatic what happened from when you had it, and you had it for a couple years and it probably still look I know how you are with stuff.
Speaker 3:Look brand new like brand new.
Speaker 2:It's a hard not to the wrong with it and then six months later it's falling apart. It didn't just all of a sudden fall start, bolt started popping.
Speaker 1:Yes and all of that.
Speaker 2:It's like we come Depending on how we say it, but I still think, regardless of how that wonderment that we like to say is, we still kind of come off like the asshole. But I think we're genuinely Mystified correct by what is happening. But and what, what? How could this, especially with the peeling? To me that sounds like a nervous tick or something.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, it's gotta be that you know just peeling the other.
Speaker 2:The the.
Speaker 3:I do with my nails, I chew my nails. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah the seat and the armrests.
Speaker 2:I I get. Yeah, I think that's probably a problem, but I get it when you say, like the back and stuff when?
Speaker 3:do? We don't understand. Are you sitting on your bed peeling the back of it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, like what is yeah, cuz we're not talking about the, the back that we sit on, you're talking the back, the back of the chair, of the chair that I don't that just how like it's I'm so, I'm not, so we're not talking where he can reach around and hit little bits of it.
Speaker 3:The entire back was peeled off. So what are we doing like?
Speaker 2:are you insane?
Speaker 3:I Like, here's like a legit like or what, what is happening and I and I like what you said. You said it's. It's a legit wonderment like I'm wondering.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I need to know where all the other like you're not angry that my wife so I'm so mystified. By this I want to know, like I want to know every detail.
Speaker 3:Yes, cuz something it's not computing, to me it's. I need to be worried that our skin's gonna get pulled right.
Speaker 2:I had a headset.
Speaker 3:Perfectly. I Decided to move to a different headset, which would allow me to hear myself in it. It's called, it's called, what's that called? It's called like in tone or something. It's called like in tone All right where? Because normally with the normal gaming headset you hear the sound, you talk into your mic, but the mic that you're talking into doesn't go into your headset. Yeah, so for like right now we're recording, we're talking into mics and we have headsets.
Speaker 1:We're running the mics into our headset so.
Speaker 3:I can hear myself right Normal gaming headsets? That doesn't happen. There is something called in tone where you can get it in a headset, where, when you talk into your mic, you can hear yourself, which helps because tremendous, because normally those headsets are Enclosed and you can't hear anything else. But so usually on the outside, when people are listening, you're screaming because you can't hear yourself right, right.
Speaker 3:But if you have in tone you can hear yourself and so you're not screaming, right. So I wanted to get a new headset. So I went and got a new one and I was like here telling you can use this, because his headset somehow Every headset that he has is just broke. It's not, doesn't work again, missing chapters there. So I give it to him. I come and and don't think anything of it.
Speaker 3:Well, down the road I had to give somebody my old PlayStation. I don't want to say who it was. I had to give somebody my old PlayStation and for their kids and and they didn't have a headset. They were gonna play games with other Kids and they didn't have a headset. And I said I think I have that headset because I knew Talon wasn't using the headset I originally gave him and it was a perfectly good headset, right. So I go in town, I go, where's that black Hawk headset? And he goes oh well, it's right here, but the mic doesn't work. And I'm like what? And he goes yeah, the mic doesn't work and I was like it worked when I gave it to you. He goes yeah, I plugged it in as soon as you gave it to me and the mic hasn't worked, since I'm like Missing chapters again. What you didn't just, yeah, I didn't hand it to you and from the box of me handing it to you, plugged it in and the mic didn't work. Yeah, something happened here?
Speaker 3:I'm missing a chapter, so I take it. I go plug it into my system. Mic doesn't work. So what happened? For when I handed it to you, to you plug in it in, something happened. Did you pull out the, because the microphone is separated from the headset. Did you pull it out and have it on your desk and spill water on it, because you've got about 75 cans of Like.
Speaker 1:What happened?
Speaker 3:so, and so my wife would say you don't call them a liar, I'm not calling them.
Speaker 1:I'm just missing part of the story here, yeah.
Speaker 3:And so if I can get the whole story, because the way you're telling me the story right now Tells me that it's a user air, something happened. I just have to assume user air listen.
Speaker 2:son, I put this thing on every night, correct? I pull out the microphone, push it back in what I'm done, like and it's, it's like it's brand new. It looks like mine, looks like I just pulled it out of the box. So that's what happens when I play a game, correct? I Pull it off the thing, yeah, put it on my heads. I pull. I pull the microphone down, I turn it all in, dial it in. When I'm done, I put it back on the hook, plug it in so it charges. Those are the steps. There's like five steps, four steps. Correct. Do the whole thing? Correct? How does the microphone not work? How does an idea?
Speaker 2:What are you doing, what it's happening? And it's not. It's Absolutely not calling them a liar, it's true, truly being mystified by the whole thing, correct, and it's not like we're trying to give them a hard time. It's or they're in trouble or it's really curiosity. Curiosity like I want to know what is?
Speaker 2:happening in this room when I'm not in here, correct, because you're you've. You've literally peeled the skin off of your chair and now a microphone doesn't work and I I don't. What is happening like this is your space and there's 75 cans in here. There's popcorn in a bowl.
Speaker 3:There's Taco Bell rapper dude, there's like a pile of garbage up against your side.
Speaker 2:Stand. When I was a kid we've talked about this my room would get messy, but it was mainly like close, correct, strewn about or whatever, and then I would get tired of it and be like I can't live like this and clean it up. So yes, when I was their age, my room was Maybe even a little bit younger, was a little messy, but it was usually like closing that. I would just put everything away and you know. But Now it is the broken stuff and the peeled chairs kids have, like I'm really so curious.
Speaker 3:They have glasses and bowls, and it's a thing I only know you and I see it on tick tock all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, where it's like a joke, where kids are like you know, the parents. I just saw one the other day where the parents like washing up, just finishing up the dishes, and it pans to a daughter, a girl, with just six Glass, like two glasses in each hand, but each one had like six glasses in each one, carrying them down from their room.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't get it. I don't think I ever did that and I don't.
Speaker 2:I didn't do that when I was a teenager. Yeah, if I, I would eat a bowl of cereal up there and then, when I was done, I'd bring the bowl down.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know it's. It's a universal thing with kids.
Speaker 3:I don't understand it and the other thing is is the other thing? That's the fight that's happening and I don't know if it happened back that I don't think I was this way because my mom would just buy stuff and you had to eat the stuff she bought.
Speaker 1:That was just the way it was.
Speaker 3:But Annie, we came home the other day and she had bought in a box of like applesauce those little they're like the traveling applesauce packages. Yeah, they were. You can crack them open and just suck that. It's like a pouch of applesauce and she's like she goes to put them in the fridge and she and it's full of applesauce pouches still the fridge, because we have a little container that we put them in and she's like, oh, I guess the kids don't like these anymore and she had bought in another box of them. I love them so.
Speaker 3:I'll eat them, I don't care and it reminds me of a tiktok video and I think I think it's just my kids.
Speaker 1:Yes, you always find something and then it's.
Speaker 3:And so the room thing I think it's just my kids. But then I see a tiktok of this gown. She's like you want to know what it's like having kids. Here's what it's like. You go to the store and you buy six muffins and you bring those muffins home and it within that day. All six months muffins get eaten by your kids and you think to yourself I found something that my kids like, mm-hmm. So you go back to the store the next day and you decide I'm gonna buy 24 muffins because they love them and I want to make sure there's enough to last for a while. And you bring them home and they don't need a single muffin Because they say fuck those muffins, I don't like those muffins anymore.
Speaker 2:Correct, that's all in this band of a week, it may be days.
Speaker 3:It could almost be day. Yeah, I mean it literally. I don't like that, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean it's, it's ridiculous eight a six pack of we just ate them yeah but that's, that's not.
Speaker 3:I don't like, I don't like those anymore. And it's the weirdest stories too Like you'll get. Like you'll get like, yeah, I don't like pasta anymore. I don't like how slimy it is.
Speaker 1:And I'm like what what?
Speaker 3:But that's just, you just making stuff up now.
Speaker 2:I understand texture stuff. Sierra's been like that with peas and beans, but it's been like that her whole life. It's not. She's eaten some for 10 years and then all of a sudden Is I don't like, don't like those. Yeah, I don't like those anymore. It's like what?
Speaker 3:and so then I see that video and I go oh, this isn't just my kids, this is like universal. This is universal, like I honestly think that my kids are just odd. But no, it's just. I mean the snacking, just.
Speaker 3:Constant snacking and then dinner time comes and they're like I'm not hungry. And I'm like, yeah, cuz you just snack, right, you just snacked all the way up to dinner. No, I'm just not hungry. Okay, I don't know what else to tell you, other than the fact that I didn't eat since lunchtime and I'm starving. Correct, because I didn't snack, it's like it really.
Speaker 2:They kind of sometimes make you feel like you're going nuts, because it not. Nothing ever really makes sense and you're constantly. You know you're an adult, you're you're 46 and I'm 50 and I'm not 46, 45, put me there 44.
Speaker 3:I'm 44 44.
Speaker 2:Sorry, there's some reason.
Speaker 3:He just dated me everybody listening, dude, he just added two years to me. You add you must think I'm old, you add decades to me because you are. You're like 90 dude. You go to bed it like your. If you could be in bed by eight o'clock every night, you would Damn near, damn near you would be in bed.
Speaker 2:I just wish the world one day that I.
Speaker 3:It was a Friday night and I'm like yo you getting on PlayStation? It was nine o'clock. You said you and Shelley were both up in bed. Correct, going to sleep. Yeah, it's a Friday night at nine.
Speaker 2:Dude, have you not seen those tick tocks where kids are like they're like these people, like in their 30s or early 40s and they kind of go through, you know, in the 20, in our 20s? We used to this party.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and 30.
Speaker 2:It was like maybe go out with some friends once a while and and then you get to your late 30s, 40s and you're like you don't want anybody around you, you're in bed and We'll sit down there and be like is it like bad that we want to go to bed at like seven, we just want to be comfortable. It's all about comfort. I get that.
Speaker 3:But Just lay down but I, I'm still not there. I mean I'm 44, but I'm still not there. Yeah, what was I gonna say? I'm still. I'm still like if it's, if it's.
Speaker 2:I know if it's before midnight. I'm, I'm like yeah, your house runs at least gaming till midnight yeah your house even if I'm, even if I'm working your houses is. Operating like are at 11 12.
Speaker 3:Oh my headset, just clicked off it. I can hear you you're fine. But you hear you, yeah, it's fine. You just okay, I was playing around with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's um, yeah, what was I saying? Your guys's house operates at like 11 or 12, like like. It operates for most people at like 6 pm. It's constant motion. There's like friends coming in and out. Yeah, there's Snacking, there's watch, you're starting a movie at 12 o'clock.
Speaker 3:Yes, at night sometimes the accurate this is all accurate, but I do have to say that if it's before midnight there, I'm not even thinking bedtime, I'm not even thinking it when we're playing, even if I gotta work the next day when we're playing and and you're like, you're like it's yeah, it's 10 o'clock and a lot of people do this. It's not just you, it's other people that I have normal people. It's like 10 o'clock. I need to get to bed. I'm not even remotely thinking, I'm asleep for two hours already.
Speaker 2:Easy, yeah, it's 10, 30.
Speaker 3:Everyone gets off and so I'll turn off my PlayStation and my wife will go why are you getting off? And I'll go, nobody play with. So I go lay in my bed and I Go lay in my bed and I decide to watch videos now, because do we even want to step into?
Speaker 2:this. Is that working? Is it not working?
Speaker 3:No, it's not that I pull it out with my foot now if, if I'm getting off PlayStation, I go and I I jump on the Apple vision pro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you just got which Dare we step into that.
Speaker 3:That's just a whole nother world if you haven't experienced it. Anybody who has an apple, if you know somebody who has an apple vision pro, they can put it in guest mode and you can experience it and it's absolutely amazing. The stuff that they're going to be able to do with that is. Me and Tony have talked about it. We don't need to go lengthy into it. But if you haven't heard of Apple vision pro and you're listening to this, look it up. It's amazing. It's augmented reality and virtual reality. Most of it's like an augmented reality, which is where you can actually see the room, but you have, like, your apps and stuff in front of you. It's super. It's almost futuristic. But the ability that they're able to do right now in their first version of this Me and Tony have talked about how, as this gets better when we hit version 5 of vision pro, the shit they're going to be able to do is going to be insane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're going to be able to you, you, yeah, you won't be able to touch and feel. So if you want to get the touchy feel like, like feel the cold in Alaska, you know, you know, you're going to be able to touch and feel like. You're going to be able to touch and feel like you're in a cold in Alaska. You're going to have to go to Alaska, mm-hmm, but you're going to be able to drop yourself anywhere. You're going to be able to vacation and it's going to be like you're there. I mean, when you see what you can already do.
Speaker 3:I mean I can literally, I could pull up a movie and throw myself into a theater and it's like I'm at the movie theaters and the sound is Amazing. If I plug in air, my AirPods, it's even better. Right, go jump on that, but it's. It's amazing. If you know somebody who has it, go and have them put it in guest mode and put yourself in in that world. It's, it's super cool. They have a dinosaur mode. It's like 3d. And here's the other thing 3d movies never was a fan of them. I used to hate going to theater, especially when I had glasses. Now I've had Lasik, so it's a little different, right, but even then, the glasses that they have at the theater are like they almost are super tight on your face. I at one point if 3d continued the way it was going originally because it was popular there for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like a thing. Yeah, you could get the 3d TVs. What was that like? So in 2010s or something like that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and every movie was coming out like oh, this one's gonna be 3d. And it was like this big thing. If it continued that route, I was like I'm gonna order some glasses, like I'm gonna order some that actually you want some nice ones, right?
Speaker 1:yeah?
Speaker 3:but it didn't. It ended up not going that way, so I haven't been a big fan of it. But the Apple vision being able to watch a movie, it's just. You can watch it in 3d probably one of the best 3d experiences. I just watched black Hawk what's it called? Black widow? Black widow, which is like a Marvel movie, and they had it on 3d on Disney plus on the vision pro, so I pulled it up to watch it. I felt like I was in the movie. It's absolutely insane what they're doing with that.
Speaker 2:So it's just, if you know somebody who has one, put it on yeah, I was hoping Michaela was gonna be in here with us for at least a little bit, because you brought it over, yeah, so Shelly and Michaela could try it out, and it's it's really. It's pretty insane.
Speaker 3:It's pretty insane yeah and there's some people like Michaela who have said, like, if you buy this Mm-hmm, I would probably use it for like a week and be done right Right. But I can tell you this much as time goes on, they're gonna allow more and more apps, because Apple TV For people who don't know what Apple TV is it's not an actual TV. It's like a box that you hook up to your TV for apps and stuff. When it first came out, they only allowed you to have the apps that were on it. That was it right then as it progressed. Now you can download whatever you want, you can delete apps that you don't use and you can put apps on there. Same thing for the vision pro. You have a certain amount of apps that you can put on there. You can add more, but there's still only a certain amount. Like Netflix isn't on there, youtube's not on there. We discussed you had said you read an article where they're waiting.
Speaker 1:They're kind of Taking a backseat to see what which is stupid, but whatever.
Speaker 3:So you have certain apps that you can watch stuff. But I tell you what I can get tick tock on there, which is, I mean, if I'm just sitting around on my phone, I'm either on tick tock or I'm watching YouTube TV. You can go on Safari, I can log into YouTube TV and watch a basketball game. They got the NBA app where I can watch basketball games. So pretty much everything that I do when I'm sitting around on my phone I can do through this. Well, why wouldn't I want to do that? I'm laying in my bed. I'm laying in my bed watching a movie on my ceiling and it's like an 85 inch screen on my ceiling. We're in the goggles and the sound is great. I'm just chilling. It's it. I would use it every. I'll use it, not I would. I will be using that every single day. Right, and you said the same thing.
Speaker 2:But there will be people like Mikaela who will say yeah, I kind of scares her that probably would use this those kind of, that kind of scares and then Scares her and then AI she's real nervous about do it kind of freaks her out, which we've talked about.
Speaker 3:There's no stance. I don't like AI. I get.
Speaker 2:I get the AI being nervous about it, but I'm I Don't use it on a daily basis. I've used it a couple times and it has been useful, but I I'll embrace whatever's coming. I mean, I've always been that way, so it's the way I think about it is, some of these things are just inevitable. They're going to happen, whether we like it or not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you either move with it, yeah, or it's gonna, it's gonna, and some people would argue, especially religious type people. You know it's a slippery slope and I get all of that, but it we're still living in this world. Yeah, I mean, I'm also on the opposite end, where I like to have. You know, I have a record player. Yeah, I have CDs, you know, because I'm also Nervous that the whole grid can go down and you've given me a hard time about that. So I'm I like cover the Spectrum, I love the technology, but I there's also some things I want because it's all very fragile.
Speaker 3:That would be your generation, though right Like you're in between the baby boomers and the people that, like my age, that are that kind of, have lived in this and and are in this. I mean we're not far apart, but you're At your age group. You're right where you're saying where you're in it.
Speaker 1:Well, I was.
Speaker 3:You're in the technology, but you're also got the other stuff right. But, yes, my whole philosophy is and I I feel like you're the same way in this is I will keep up with it. I don't want to be where my parents are, where they're like. Asking me my dad's asking me can I sign into my email on my mom's computer? I need to create another user on your computer. No, you can go to the library and sign in your email. I don't want to be to that point where I'm not.
Speaker 3:I want to always be in touch with what's going on, correct? So?
Speaker 2:That's, that's why, I'm gonna keep up with it and you're like you said, whether I move with it or not, it's moving, yeah, and there's sometimes when I have flashes of like, oh crap, I'm a little a smidge behind it and I, I don't like that feeling because I, like our generation, takes pride in. You know, there is computers since what? The like the 60s or whatever, but they weren't like personal computers. You know, when we were growing up it was too much, it was like cable TV, it was like Atari. You know the gaming system.
Speaker 2:So we've been Jen X, I would say have really been. We see what is here now and we've seen where we're, where it started, mm-hmm. You know I'm saying like I'll like, every once in a while, listen to a specific kind of music where early 80s it's a certain sound and then probably mid to late 80s there's Use of electronics and stuff like that. So there's so From the late, say, late, late 80s, early 90s, to now music has pretty much sounded the same. Like I can listen to somebody like George Michael that put an album out in 1991 and it sounds like it could have been released today.
Speaker 1:Does that make? Am I making sense if?
Speaker 2:you go like 85 ish, 83 and earlier, sounds completely different, mm-hmm. So there's something. So I kind of span this generation where you know I had rotary phone at home and now we have cell phones and that kind of stuff. So our generation has seen it Correct the tech, all of it, yes, or good, you know, portion of it. And so there's an acceptance there that, like your parents, like they're totally lost, I am. I think it's cool. Your dad has, you know, he has a Ford Lightning and he's yeah, he probably has an, even he there's probably things on that car that he probably is still never used, correct?
Speaker 3:hands down. He just loves that he can charge it and drive it and he thinks it's cool. Yes, he probably hasn't even like. I'm Actively searching what I can do.
Speaker 2:Yes, with your Tesla.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's just the way it is right? Yeah, because I want to know, right I? Want to know we've talked about this in the office. Like it's it's You're you're actively searching out the things that you can do with your new car, like what are all the hidden features I want to know. I'm searching out what I can do with the vision pro. What, how do I do things? Where can I go with it? Tips and tricks I want to know all of it. I want to keep up to date on it. But you're right.
Speaker 3:It's cool, he's got that and he's kind of lives there a little bit, you know right, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's all about having his music on his phone. My mom, she would rather just have a seedy in the car and Just put her see well, you had it and she came in and you had it.
Speaker 2:You did you have it on when she came in, or?
Speaker 3:yeah, no, no, not when she came in, but she was talking to my brother. I put it on to start eating my lunch and then she was oh yeah she said bye and I turned around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and she's like well, you'll never see me with one of those. Yeah, it's like I don't, I don't ever want to be like that. Yeah, and it's fine, you, your mom's great, she. Just that generation where she's like I don't want any part of that. Yeah, it's like too much and All of that. And if I could afford it, I would have one like I want to keep up with the tech.
Speaker 2:Yes like I, you're giving me a hard time about AI, but I'm going to Local. It's called the economic forecast that the Columbian does and it's like they've been doing it for 38 years. It's been going on for decades and this particular year is about AI and Industry and how it's going to affect multiple industries and all of that. I'm very curious About that kind of stuff. We've talked about how it could affect my job, or even like an Apple Vision Pro could Enhance my job. Correct, because I'm like I can see the use Of for like the Apple Vision Pro, but I don't know, I don't have the knowledge to build something like that. But I could see sitting in my office and literally doing what I do, like Building the block here and then clicking off walls and it being 40 stories.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're almost like 3d.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying within the building yeah, that's, that's how I see it, like I'm standing on a street corner and I've got my list of materials here and putting stuff together and then I click off the wall and it's like yep, this is this, this is this brick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this brick and then, oh, there's a different brick above the window. Let me put that in like you know how, standing there, like looking at it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm clicking off the windows. You know how amazing that would be for me to do that job.
Speaker 3:It'd be so dope dude. It's so much more fun, dude, it'd be awesome. It'd be awesome, I'd be.
Speaker 1:I'd be like I think we need two estimators.
Speaker 3:I'm going back into that.
Speaker 2:It'd be so cool. So that's the kind of use I could see with with Something like the Apple.
Speaker 1:Vision.
Speaker 2:Pro, yeah, or even AI. On the other end, where you say you put in, okay, it's this, this and this, and then it builds it, and then I'm out a job or I'm doing that and I've just building. I mean it's like creating all the buildings.
Speaker 3:I feel like we're always gonna have to have a human aspect. I mean, it's, it's. I agree, you just can't. I mean Machines can only run a certain. I mean yeah, there's machines out there doing stuff, but it's it's. I feel like there's always got to be some sort of human aspect.
Speaker 2:I saw a video I think it was on Instagram or something just the other day and I thought of mckayla. It was one of those humanoid robots that had a um, I don't know if it was a paintbrush or they were doing like plaster, so they had uh you know, the trial and they were wiping an entire wall with this. It was either paint or putty or something like the like 10 foot swatches, mm-hmm, it's like you just get a couple of those.
Speaker 3:The problem is is when you face some sort of adversity, the robots can't compute how to fix that.
Speaker 2:I think they're getting close to that though.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean, we've talked me and Ian have talked about it in length of our our actual business right.
Speaker 3:And we're like there are things that they're just not going to be able to compute, that we, you, have to rethink it's, it's in and they're like there's a human elephant. They're like I mean you see it all the time with, with architects, that's a human elephant elephant.
Speaker 3:I would like to see a human elephant, but we see it all the time with like architects right, they have, they're putting the drawing on the plans based on what their system is telling them. That can happen, right, because the AI system is saying this is allowed. But we know that you can't put that size of rebar in that, in that type of brick, even though the, the computer's saying, yes, it is possible, it's not fucking possible. And so you have, because you have overlap or you have this, or the square isn't right, or you got to have so much grout. It's not. I know it seems like it's okay, but it's not okay. And so there is that human aspect that I think we're always going to need. I mean, who knows where technology takes us and if we're going to need that down the road?
Speaker 3:But Hope, my hope, is that that we, as humans, realize that we also, as humans, need to be able to Function as humans. We can't just sit in our rooms wearing vision pros. You know, live in life. I mean, what was it? Isn't it Zuckerberg who wanted to have? He wanted to have it to where you never had to leave your. You just be in 3d world. You'd live your whole life in a 3d world. Your job would be in the 3d world.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like wally with date.
Speaker 3:I, I don't think that. I think hopefully we as humans will go. That's not good for us Right before we actually get there. But I also, I also feel in my mind that there will. There will be errors that only humans will be able to see and fix, because the systems Won't be able to fix those Issues so have you heard of chat gbt, sora?
Speaker 2:Sora just came out like this week or last week. Have you heard of it? It's chat gbt, which is a the big popular one, and their new Extension, or whatever you want to call it, it's called Sora and what it does they? I was watching Marquez, is that his name?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, the tech guy that we really like, I think even mackayla watches him.
Speaker 2:Don't, you is a black kid, he's a tech guy. No, there's somebody that I was just talking to that listened, watched him too. I was like, oh yeah, I listened to that guy.
Speaker 3:He's probably one of the best when he's so apple and all that stuff. Well, he does, yeah, he does a lot of everything.
Speaker 2:He does everything. He's great Just young kid, probably in his mid 20s anyways.
Speaker 3:Making millions they were they were showing.
Speaker 2:He was showing what I believe it was him. They were showing what Um AI could create video wise one year ago. I don't know if you've ever seen it, but it was a video of Will Smith eating and I think they just typed in Will Smith eating soup or something like that and the video was like crazy. It was like his eyes were kind of buggy and his head was like, because it was computer generated right so it was like all weird.
Speaker 2:One year later I'll show you a video and we're done of what. If you do like with Sora, that one of the videos that they did was okay. So it's going to be an Asian lady in Asia walking down a street with soft, uh light, you know, lit buildings, with like uh, like New York is like, with the big um video boards and stuff raining with a black coat, like all this detail right, and so you put, you type that in and then it generates this video and the video that it creates is world miles from what that will Smith video was Sure. So if you look at it close enough, you can see like that there's a guy walking towards her and he's kind of gliding, so it's not quite right. Some of the reflection on the street is incredible that it can do that, but if you look close enough, it's a little weird. It's not kind of matching Um, but his point was from a from then to a year.
Speaker 2:Now is it's insane. The video is insane, agreed. So, uh, I understand everything you're saying, but the tech is moving at light speed.
Speaker 2:And that's why. That's why I want to go to the economic breakfast, because I want to. I want to know how people are visualizing how it's going to affect industry, all industry, um, you know, moving forward, and I don't even think they really know because of how fast it's developing. And you know, when we're in a business, where we're, we're basically um building our cities, you know, us and other you know, masons and do people that do the tilt up Cement board stuff.
Speaker 2:I mean, you know we're, you know there's architects and developers and stuff like that, and then we were the guys that well, not me, but our guys put it together. So that's why I'm curious about it, because we're really dependent on developers and people moving our cities forward. So, um, I'm just really curious how it it could affect. I don't know if they're going to talk about construction they're going to talk about construction at all, but it it does it does interest me.
Speaker 3:It's cool to hear that stuff. The part that I'm making fun of you about is that it's a breakfast thing that you are all excited about. I am, it's, it's actually the Colombian. I've worked at Colombian for that.
Speaker 2:I worked for the Colombian for 30 years and I've never been to one but this one because it's AI. I'm like and, and Sierra is going to be working at it. So I'm like, can I just hang out with you? She's like, yeah, he's just come down and hang out with me and we'll just sit and listen. I'm looking forward to it. I'd rather be home. I think the three of you should buy a table and go and listen. No, he's just. None of you just want to do that. So I've got to go network and write some notes for you.
Speaker 3:I guess you want to hang out with your daughter and networking.
Speaker 1:I'm not networking.
Speaker 2:I'm not talking to one person.
Speaker 3:Should we jump into the, the oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So we are going to Mackie Mack just walked in.
Speaker 3:We are going to do a real quick before we jump into that, because you you had said we talked about you have your mic right. We had talked about the vision pro and I had said that there will be people like you who you you're like that's cool but it freaks you out, and you had said after a week I probably wouldn't be on it. But then there's people like me and your dad who are like going to be on that thing every day. If your dad had one, he'd be like me and be on it every single day. Correct? I shouldn't say if your dad had one when your dad gets one.
Speaker 1:He'll be on it every day.
Speaker 3:So just explain to them what it is about it that freaks you out.
Speaker 1:It reminds me of a black mirror episode.
Speaker 2:That's right. I don't like it.
Speaker 1:And it's also very isolating too, like you can't watch something with someone, like you're always just kind of in your own bubble, which is fine.
Speaker 3:But like it, I guess if you don't have.
Speaker 1:I guess it would just come down to it If you don't have great control with it.
Speaker 3:but so think about this with that being said, I'm glad you brought that up, with that being said, because Annie, my wife, she jumped on it and she went into the throne room because on HBO they actually have an immersive throne room where you can go sit in, like this throne room, and it basically takes the movie and extends it out like a massive movie screen and you're just sitting in this throne room, right, what I mean? You're basically in virtual reality and she said this is so cool. She goes, but like I want to be watching like a scary movie in here with you, right.
Speaker 3:And so I was like, so to come to that point, think about where movies have come Right. So we used to be able to just watch movies. Or if you wanted to watch a movie with your friend, you'd have to have the friend over and you'd watch it on your screen. Now you're able to watch movies with your friend the same movie, watch it, pause it, all that stuff while FaceTiming them right Through your home, like you can literally be in your room watching one on your TV and your friend could be in their room and you're watching together while talking to each other, but you're in separate rooms.
Speaker 1:That shares, that shares.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's the share.
Speaker 3:It's the share movie thing that they created right Share, watch or whatever it is. So eventually they've got to come out to where if, like, I had a headset and you had a headset, that we could like literally go, hey, let's watch this movie together. It starts at the same point for both of us, but we're both in the same room, we're both in the throne room and we can actually see each other while watching the movie. They've got to come out with that. I mean, that's, that's going to be happening in it.
Speaker 3:So like that which would be super cool, because now you're actually experiencing it with other people. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:At that point I'd rather just be with that person, correct, but if you can't.
Speaker 2:But I mean, you've watched movies with with Jocelyn when she's at home and you're just kind of like watching it together and chatting and stuff. This way you're like sitting with each other and she's at home. Yeah, you're still chatting. You're still talking to each other, but both of you are in each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, both of you were in like almost a theater. You don't have to go to a theater, you're just in a theater yourself. Right.
Speaker 1:At home. You don't have to go anywhere.
Speaker 3:You're at the comfort of your own home. I mean, think about that. It's pretty dope, she, she, she's just not a fan of what I can, but you, but you can agree, it's pretty, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:It's pretty cool, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, can you know, it's pretty cool, but I dissect your feelings about it, or is it just a feeling you really can't describe? It just doesn't like feel right, just doesn't just feel right, they're again.
Speaker 1:it reminds me black mirror. And it's kind of like what you guys were talking about is how AI is moving so quickly, and I don't trust it at all.
Speaker 2:Cause I feel like people you're an old soul.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like people are going to depend on it way too much. And then it's going to ruin a lot of things and I just don't. I don't Right Like that's a good that's a good point. I get it, I do feel I need people like her yeah.
Speaker 3:And I do feel people are going to depend on it too much, right?
Speaker 3:And this is where there's going to be an air at some point and the AI is not going to be able to fix the air. I mean, I just look at my own business and you've got a grout pump that gets clogged. It's not going to know how to unclog that grout pump. I mean, there's things you have to do to unclog the grout pump. It's not going to know how to do those certain things. Right, it's, it's. I mean, there's just some things it's not going to be able. And we're going to be like, oh no, it's AI, it's going to be able to do everything, it's going to be able to fix it. And it's like, well, no, it's not.
Speaker 1:I mean, we're kind of already there with people like just Googling stuff.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:Like just trying to find answers, which I mean everyone does, which they say, which they say is like a complete wrong way of doing things yeah, like the amount of information you get out there is so false.
Speaker 2:AI is getting all of its information. It's a collectively, and that's one of the things that, like Kamala Harris was talking about, which I understand is that we need people of all. It's going to sound a little Race baiting is not the and not the word I'm looking for, but her thing is that everybody needs to be included in this, every culture, every person, every race, because it's a collection of information, and so her point was which I agree, which I'm sure she was just parroting somebody that everybody needs access to this, all groups of people black people, mexican people because it's collecting this information and it needs to know their culture, as well as white culture or just the general culture which was like I get that so her my
Speaker 3:question is is if AI just be for the privilege that can get it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, but if AI is relying on the information that's out there, think about this say you're gonna rely on the AI to fix you medically, but we all know that the information that's out there medically is not the correct information. It's not correct. I mean, people Google, like what is it? Webmd? And I've heard that that's like the worst site to go to to get information. So if it's grabbing from that area to help you health wise and it's not grabbing the correct information, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So now you're relying on the AI to fix you and you're thinking I can barely rely on my doctors to figure out.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Well, you're gonna hate this.
Speaker 3:Think about that.
Speaker 2:Because I have a-.
Speaker 3:Of course you do A rebuttal. Go ahead, rebut away.
Speaker 2:Because, guess what, I was listening to A podcast. Oh, gosh geez, and they were talking about this exact thing just a couple of weeks ago. I was on a walk with Rouge and I was listening and there was this gal that had taken her kids, or whatever, to the doctor and they could not figure out what the diagnosis was. It was like a rare thing. So they plugged it into AI and AI actually diagnosed and got it right. So that's one situation though.
Speaker 2:It's situational. That's very but it's But-. But, like you said, she can't rely on her doctor. In this case, she relied on AI, which had grabbed tons of information, and they were able to it's not gonna be the only time it's able to do that.
Speaker 3:I get that.
Speaker 2:And it's only learning more and more and more as time goes on.
Speaker 1:I still don't like any of it. Like listen, I'm not a huge proponent of it.
Speaker 2:I've used it a couple of times. I have an app on my phone where it helped us name our new podcast and we picked the same one and I was just like dad and daughter doing a podcast about pop culture. Basically it's an AI podcast and it gave me basically, and it gave me 10 names Basically and then I said give me more.
Speaker 1:So I said sure, and it gave me 10 more names and we picked one of those names You'll see like stuff like that is fine, but when it comes to literally anything else, it's like I don't like any of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I think the problem is is that people are going to go. Well, if it can do that, then it can easily do this. Exactly, and they're gonna put themselves in a position where they're gonna rely too much on AI. I agree.
Speaker 1:And it's not gonna work out Because people are so stupid.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:And so like I mean, I love tech as much as the next person, but people are obsessive over shiny things and that's just human nature.
Speaker 2:Yep yes.
Speaker 3:I completely agree. I have a shiny new thing and I'm obsessed over it.
Speaker 1:I love it See.
Speaker 3:But I also understand, like at some point I take it off. And I think even Annie looked at me and was like, why are you getting off? And I'm like I can't live my whole life in these goggles. You gotta be careful, I have to pull myself out of it.
Speaker 2:Yes, and that's the thing is. There's people like you that recognize that and say I need to be present with my family or whatever. But there's always that side of the people who are always gonna abuse stuff. And then there's sensible people that can pull themselves out of it, and but you just can't control people or the thing.
Speaker 3:This thing is racing ahead and it is not slowing down anytime soon, I mean you see people with the vision pro just walking around on the streets and I'm like, I'm like, listen when you wear it and you see what? You can see and do the things you do I get it.
Speaker 2:You're so distracted.
Speaker 3:I get why they're doing that and wearing it out in the streets or going to a restaurant and doing it. Listen, I in my office, I order my food. I eat my food while I'm on it because I can see. So.
Speaker 3:I get going to a restaurant and having that and being able to pull up like a movie while you're sitting at a restaurant, and everything. But at the same time you have to be able you have to be self-conscious enough to go, take that off and, when you're at a restaurant, interact with the people. Like it's you're putting yourself, you're putting a wall. Even though you can see with it, you're still putting a wall up. When that happens Now in my office I'm having lunch by myself. I'm just chilling. So why not wear it and pull up a screen?
Speaker 1:and do that. It's like a more aggressive version of keeping your phone face up on the dinner table. That's exactly what I was gonna say.
Speaker 2:Well, any facet of your phone. We have laws about not being distracted as drivers and immediately, immediately, some doof was in his Tesla self-driving Tesla. I think a Tesla truck, I think it was a semi-ride. Yeah, and he had his Vision Pro on and they have to say they had to come out and say don't drive with this on. But it's like so it's the distraction, it's people with their heads down, with their phone and it's one step further now you can keep your head up and see what's going on.
Speaker 2:But everything is still in your face.
Speaker 1:It's still a separation between you and the person in front of you cause you see them, but they see this giant thing that it makes you look stupid, it's even more.
Speaker 2:It's a step further of separation than your phone, because at least on your phone you can just kind of real quickly. But with this it's on your face separation, and then like apps in front of you like you're so distracted.
Speaker 1:Especially bringing it on the street into restaurants, like that is ridiculous.
Speaker 3:It's ridiculous. There's one dude in front row at a basketball game.
Speaker 1:And I mean I'm not sure I've heard it.
Speaker 3:But and that's the thing I realized that I saw one guy shoot a video and he's like I wore this for eight hours the other day and I'm like you spent eight hours of your day with that thing on your head. Are you kidding me? Listen, I can do like a movie or I can sit there and fart around on it for like an hour or so, but then I take it off and I'm interacting with the family. It's like I'm not sitting here while we're doing the podcast wearing the goggles. I mean, I get it, you can see everything. But I also understand that even though I can see everything in the room, I have enough sensibility to go. That's still creating a wall between me and you guys. You know it is, it is, it's doing it. So anyways, let's jump into the-.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're at an hour and 15.
Speaker 3:Are? Am I the asshole? Is that what it's called the?
Speaker 2:asshole. Okay, you ready.
Speaker 3:Let's hear the story and read this.
Speaker 2:Am I the asshole or four refusing to pay my daughter as much as my son and refusing to supplement her check so that they're equal? Okay, so this is right up our alley. My two oldest kids are in college and working part-time to earn spending money. They live at home and we pay for their tuition cards, insurance, basically everything except their spending money. I have my own small construction company and run a crew of about 15 men, including my son.
Speaker 2:Lately we've been doing mostly roofing jobs. My son's job is to help take off the old shingles, pick up any shingles that missed the dumpster and help prep the roof. Once the installation starts, he delivers a steady stream of shingles dangerous oh wait shingles, nails and other materials to the nailers. It's a dangerous and hard job, so I pay him about $25 an hour. My daughter works as a cashier, but most of the time she's standing at the self-checkout lanes and rarely behind the register. She's paid about $15.
Speaker 2:Last weekend my son bought his girlfriend a new iPhone for Valentine's. It was talking about the restaurant he was gonna take her to. Since it's an expensive phone and restaurant, my daughter asked where he's getting the money. That led to how much I'm paying him and she got mad. He's been working with me for about four months, but she's never shown any interest in what we do or ask anything about his job or pay, so it came as a surprise to her.
Speaker 2:The short version of a week-long argument in our house is that she thinks it's unfair he's making so much more than she is. I offered her the same early wage if she wants to join her brother on the roof, but she went once and didn't finish out the day. Instead, she wants us to make up the difference between their paychecks. My wife thinks I should come up with an easier job, like just let her pick up the shingles that missed the dumpsters. I said that's an easy job and I'm not paying her $25 for a minimum wage job. I told her that she can make as much as her brother, but she doesn't want to carry heavy and dirty shingles. Now both women are giving me the silent treatment Last night, when my wife went so far as to eat dinner with our daughter before my son and I got home at six and later went to bed without saying a word to me all night. Run, you are not the asshole away.
Speaker 3:You're not the asshole. I can't even believe the daughter. I would look at my daughter in the eyes and say you've got to be fucking kidding me. You want me to pay your difference because you took a job that is paying you rightfully for what you're doing, Right?
Speaker 1:What are we talking about? I tell my son all the time.
Speaker 3:You want to make more money, you can go out in the field, but it's hard, or you can continue to work for fire house.
Speaker 2:That's up to you. You're getting paid for what you're doing your choice.
Speaker 3:And he chose and he chooses to stay there. Now he says it beats him up and everything, because he works long hours and he's standing on his feet and I get all that but you're rightfully getting paid for what you do, right? So what are we talking about? And the fact that the wife is on board and giving him the silent treatment dude needs to run.
Speaker 2:Run, I agree, run away from that. This is not an end of it.
Speaker 3:No idea what you're doing. You're giving her just the same opportunity. Are you the asshole? Negative.
Speaker 2:No, they're actually being assholes. Yes, they're the assholes in the situation. Michaela, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 1:He's not. He's not the asshole.
Speaker 2:That's all ridiculous.
Speaker 1:So she's basically wanting to get paid the same amount as her brother that's doing all this heavy work to do nothing.
Speaker 2:I mean it's kind of it's like welfare. I mean it's like you know, they want to supplement for doing nothing You're like you're doing a job which is good for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You're out there, you're working, but you're not doing what he's doing, so you're getting paid 10. I mean, this is it hard. What if she?
Speaker 3:didn't have a job. What if she didn't have a job and the kid was working to make it 25? Would the daughter be like well, wait a second, can't you give me what you're giving him even though I'm not working, what? That makes zero sense. You're choosing to do what you want to do. He's giving you the opportunity to come pick up shingles too. Now, granted, I'm sure the dad is not saying you've got to do just as much as your brother's doing as far as picking up stuff. You just have to do the same job. It's understandable that he's probably not saying you have to. You know well, you didn't pick up as many shingles as your brother did. I mean, I would never expect Jordan to come out and do just as much of the same job as Logan. But if you're going to do the same job, I'll pay you the same wage.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 3:Now if Logan does a better job, that's where raises come in. Right, right, right yeah.
Speaker 2:What are we doing? The other part of this is kind of related, but kind of not. I was reading an article about app workers, what they call them now. So Uber.
Speaker 1:Gordash and all of that.
Speaker 2:All of those jobs, all of them, as well as part-time jobs where everybody wants to say a livable wage Okay, we've talked about this, those are or newspapers when we did the newspapers, the first thing I would tell them is that this is not one. It's not a job because you're a contractor, but this is supplemental income. This is you have a part-time job, or you have a job and you want to pay off some bills or you want to put your kids through college. We've had so many people that were like folks like us that made decent money, but they wanted a part-time gig to put their kids through college or pay off some debt or get a new car, and they worked extra to do that thing. I mean, I do Gordash once in a while and it's kind of for spending money for what I want to do or whatever, or sometimes it's just something to do, but so it's supplemental. It's not a job. It's not a job that you're supposed to make a living off of. But people have started doing that job as their only source of income and now they're complaining that it's not a livable wage. And just the other day there was like from 1 pm to 4 pm or something. There was like a strike with all of these app workers because they're not getting a livable wage and stuff like that and these jobs are not meant.
Speaker 2:It's like a hustle job. It's like to do it the way I do Gordash once in a while. Sometimes I did a part-time job for a while at Papa Murphy's while I was working full-time to help pay off some debt that we had. Now I do Gordash once in a while just for some extra spending money. That's all those jobs are for. Even the part-time job are for kids or. But it's this whole livable wage now where the minimum wage now is over $15 because it's, which is nowhere near livable. I mean to do livable here in this state you need to be paying, probably being paid more than I get paid as a single person, because it's so expensive so even your livable wage is a livable wage.
Speaker 2:It's a part-time wage?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so the now there are people with those apps like Uber, right when you drive around people or whatever. That put in the work, like you're saying, and they make it and I that make it a full-time job and put in the work but they're.
Speaker 2:Which is fine, which is fine, but they're constantly doing it for no, it's not.
Speaker 3:But there are people that do do it and I really respect the people that that take it one step further and figure how am I gonna do this the right way to make money? So there's one guy, I think he's in Chicago, he lives in the city of Chicago, he's on tiktok and he basically does it on his bike. He delivers food on his bike Like dude. Dude has zero gas, zero payments on anything. He has his bike set up to deliver food and he rides around within the city. And you know, if you drive over to Portland in the city there's a crap ton more and you get paid more money to deliver over there. Right?
Speaker 3:Yeah that dude's in the city of Chicago just right around into the living.
Speaker 2:If you're going into the urban area, if you're going into downtown, a bike is pretty feasible. Yeah, it's perfect and he's making a bunch of money.
Speaker 3:And then I saw somebody else, a gal, had said I do this with, I do uber and drive people around and I'm working a lot, right, right. But I also had a car. The gas and the maintenance and my car payment Was so much every month that it wasn't feasible. So she figured how can I make this work? Because this was her full-time job, which you like, you said it's not meant for that, but there are people there are some people that so she went out, she bought a Tesla and people are like what are you doing?
Speaker 3:and she's like I make more money for myself now Having a Tesla, because the payment was like 700 bucks, right, and she didn't have any gas, any maintenance or anything, and she was just and she was able to do a lot more, so she was able to actually make more money for herself, right. So people can do it well, and that's I mean. To sit and argue that we need more, it's like this is literally, I Like you said, for people to just drive around and deliver food.
Speaker 2:It's those people that you don't mind them doing that thing because they're innovating too. They're like how do I? So they're trying to figure out how do I make this work for me? They're not saying well, this is my job now I don't think I'm getting a livable wage, so I'm gonna strike until you feel like it's all. Give, give, give to me. Correct, that lady was like okay, so how do I get this to work for me?
Speaker 3:And she's gonna be my full-time job. How am I gonna fix?
Speaker 2:this, she figured it out. She figured it out Correct. She got a Tesla. Now she's making more. She's an ideal, ideal gal. This is what she enjoys.
Speaker 3:It sounds like, yep, what she enjoys, she said and she said and I love meeting people, so this is what I want to do for my job. And now she's.
Speaker 2:Now, those are the kind of people that I don't mind doing it as a Job, because you can do any of these. I mean, we did have people that that was their sole source of information was delivering papers, and they had multiple routes and they may have. I'm thinking of one couple in particular where I think he did work outside of the home but he came out and helped his wife better. His wife did the lion's share and they had like three routes at some point and that was their deal and they made it work. Perfect. She was a carry for decades. Yeah, that's great, but don't come and ask for more because it's not livable.
Speaker 3:That none of these jobs for what you're doing.
Speaker 2:None of them were meant to be that kind of job. It's supplemental. It's and I would. That was one of the first things I would tell people. This is supplemental, this is not a primary source of it, so you're not gonna make thousands. You're gonna make anywhere from $500 a month to To $12 or $1300 a month and on top of that you're gonna have to deal with your wear and tear. But if you do it right and do your taxes and and maybe create a small business and you can write all that's all that stuff you can write off. So if you do it right, the expense part can be minimized by Writing things off because you own your own business. And I would tell people this you can name your company Sally's delivery service or Sally's newspaper delivery.
Speaker 2:Yeah and do it the right way. Most people didn't do that and it was just. You know, they're six or seven hundred dollars a month, which is fine, but it was like we did have some innovative people that kind of made it their delivery business and they deliver multiple products and and all that. So I Don't know. We did have a couple of knuckleheads that tried to do it on their Bicycles and you just really couldn't do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean that's feasible, but or you just, or, or you just ask your dad to just, you know, pay the difference.
Speaker 2:So right or you can do that. That guy certainly was not the asshole. I would say the wife and the daughter's asshole in that situation.
Speaker 3:But that's similar to what we're. What you're talking about is is she's sitting there going. Well, wait a second. I don't have as much as he has, so I'm in a title. I'm entitled to two more money.
Speaker 1:No, it seems like it's separate the family from and the family to business relationship either. She can't separate that Because the father and the son clearly can and it works out for them. But she's like, oh wait, but my brother is getting this much, but she doesn't see like the business part of it too right the work part of it.
Speaker 2:They're not doing the work part of it, right yeah, crazy thing, crazy. That should probably do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's. I love that. I love that little segment. I don't know that I've ever heard one, because I hear them on Tik Tok as well. They'll pop up and I love that. I think we need to keep doing it. But I don't know that I've ever heard one where I've said now, you're an asshole, I've. I mean, usually it's like I'm I'm siding with the person who's staying the story, like right and it's and it's, and it's usually pretty hard, like this one I'm like, yeah, that's you need to run yeah especially if your wife and your daughter are ignoring you and eating dinner without you and going to
Speaker 2:bed early, you said man get out, I don't know how long you've been with them, but get out. Well, they're long enough for them both to be working. But yeah, there's one guy in Tik Tok like this is not all he does, but he does these. He's got like a whole set up. I think a lot of podcasts do them, but they're new all the time. So it's kind of a fun segment for really any podcast to do.
Speaker 2:So I thought we'd add it because it just kind of gives a you know a new element, so perfect. Anyways, mikaela, you weren't in here for very long. Is there anything you want to say or share anything? No no, you're good. Yeah all right. Okay, well, I can maybe do a little plug for a new podcast do it yeah.
Speaker 2:We're do make. Mikaela and I are going to start a podcast on Monday, we're going to record on Monday and it's called Generation Pop, because we love pop culture movies, music, tick tock, tv shows, all it, basically anything like that, and it's Generation Pop again. I got the title from AI and then we just have an X and a Z for our generations and it's from a we're not doing like a father daughter perspective, it's just a Gen Z and a Gen Z, or Gen X and Gen Z perspective like just different perspectives.
Speaker 2:Yeah so it'll be on that, because I want to know feed. It's going to be like a sub podcast, so you'll you'll see it under the because I want to know podcast. And the reason I'm doing that is Dax Shepard does that with armchair expert. He's got like five different shows and they're all under that one feed and it will be. I'll just label it Gen P or G pop. That's what I decided on. It'll be g pop and then the title of it. So sweet, be watching out for that, probably in the next week.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I just I love doing this. I just love recording and stuff and I thought it would be fun to Do one with Mackie.
Speaker 1:Agreed because I like the whole. I like we have opinions.
Speaker 2:We have opinions, don't we all? And we'll give them. So this one will be opinions about pop culture. So anyways, all right, that's it. Well, thanks for coming over, drew, and thanks for popping in for A few minutes.
Speaker 3:Thanks, shelly for uh wanting to listen to this. Thank you, shelly, for pushing us to uh record yeah, she's. We do have to appreciate that we do need to continue to do it.
Speaker 2:On a regular, regular lead every seven months. Yes, I agree, you know when I look back because they give stats and we did six all of last year.
Speaker 1:Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we need to be a little more terrible.
Speaker 1:Hey, listen, we're like one every two years.
Speaker 3:Our first one, so maybe we'll be a little bit more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, because we both and I you and I Are always caught, constantly talking because I'm working with you, know, but we never really run out of things to gab about, correct? So, yeah, we talk about this all the time, but we do need to record more often, because I love this whole process. I mean, definitely don't run and shelly Shelly.
Speaker 3:We came in with nothing today and we just spoke for like for an hour and a half.
Speaker 2:Shelly is really she's like so what are you gonna record? Because she really she really does like listening to him and so she's kind of on my back. I was like we'll get. Well, you know, I'll talk to him, talk to him. So we do appreciate it. I don't take it as her hassling us. I take it as she cares. She knows we enjoy it and she wants to hear us. Yeah, she wants to hear it. So anyways, all right. Well, thanks guys, and we'll see you next time later.
