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Anscast Ep. 113 - Clash of Idol Queens, Rethinking Women's Sports, and the Power of Gaming Connections
But the conversation doesn't stop at the mic—Sierra joins us for a raw look into the world of sports where we question if women's games should adapt to their athletes' physiques. Could a lower basketball hoop be the game-changer for women's sports? We're not afraid to tackle the tough questions and sift through the skill gap debate, pondering adjustments that could send the thrill of competition skyrocketing. And when it comes to gender roles, we rip into the complex weave of sports, fashion, and societal expectations, leaving no stone unturned as we discuss everything from dress codes to body positivity.
Feeling the disconnect in today's whirlwind world? We wrap up with a heartfelt salute to the bonds forged through online gaming, sharing personal tales of how virtual battles have led to real-world hangouts and stronger friendships. As we share our elation over a friend's return from tour, it's a reminder of the joy found in the simple act of togetherness. So, plug in, turn up the volume, and join us for the lively discussion, laughter, and camaraderie that makes this episode a genuine slice of life.
hey, welcome back to Anne's cast.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir, yes, sir, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 2:That's not the sound. What's the sound? Kelly Clarkson did it on her show or on a TikTok that I saw. I want to punch her in the face.
Speaker 4:Wow, wow, wow wow wow, wow.
Speaker 2:You know that horn, the foghorn thing at basketball games.
Speaker 3:Listen, she's done a lot of good since her. American idol run. I just still want to punch her in the face. Okay, so it's just one of those things. Just one of those things she's she's funny. She is, she's great. So I think she's, I think I think, uh, one of the best career moves she did was that talk show thing, I think that she's super popular, I think that's better than her singing career, in my opinion. I think she's does great at that. She does really good. She can sing too, like she's like.
Speaker 2:I would say no, like no.
Speaker 3:I'm saying I know she can sing really good, but I feel like the talk show thing is more her niche. Is that how? You say uh, but like, I feel like, I feel like carrie underwood phenomenal. I feel like kelly clarkson is the phenomenal karaoke winner. You know what I'm saying? Like you give her any song at like a karaoke thing and she just nails it.
Speaker 2:She does really good yeah, so are you saying?
Speaker 1:that I'm not like it is better than kelly clarkson.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, I don't think that's true, absolutely I bet you she's made more money um, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, sierra, sierra can carry.
Speaker 3:Sierra can look carry under. Carry underwood has definitely made the most money out of any american idol, uh hands down.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna deny that.
Speaker 3:I'd want to know highest grossing american idol winner. Yeah, just do that, say hi, sierra hi guaranteed it's kelly clarkson by a large margin. I agree with that. No, carrie underwood guarantee it's carrie underwood. Now. Yeah, because there's a now? Yeah, because she can't be a lot of so she can't be making a shit ton of money with her show, right, kelly?
Speaker 4:Carrie Underwood yeah, by a large margin.
Speaker 3:What is it? Uh, it's Carrie Underwood, told you well, country music.
Speaker 2:People don't know, but country music is the most popular genre music in the United States.
Speaker 3:Well, dude and she's got that Sunday night football thing that she's probably just getting paid bank for.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't think we just talked about her on our gem pop uh podcast and we were talking about country artists and I don't. She's her voice.
Speaker 3:And that's like saying taylor swift is a country artist. What? That's like saying taylor swift is a country artist. What? I'm saying Taylor Swift is a country artist. Well, she was. That's dumb. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. Not only is Taylor Swift, stupid, sorry.
Speaker 2:Why are you bringing up Taylor Swift? What are you talking about right now?
Speaker 3:Because you said something about Carrie Underwood being a country artist. Yeah, she is. I don't consider her a country artist, but she is. I'm sorry she's not in my head. Well, your head is dumb, she's more of a pop artist. No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:She has in your head.
Speaker 3:No, listen to her music. It's more poppy.
Speaker 2:She has.
Speaker 3:That's like saying Beyonce is a country artist now. Well, yeah, that's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2:She has hosted the cmas for, like I, don't care if she's 10 years old, she's country artist. That's what she's known for.
Speaker 3:I mean taylor is clearly now a pop artist started out taylor was a pop artist, she started country for the first couple then you keep saying that word, but it doesn't mean that they're country in my head, you know okay, only in your head, that's kelly has always been pop, that would be like people.
Speaker 3:That would be like people saying that I don't know if this is, I don't know if, because I don't think post malone was considered a rapper but I wouldn't consider him rap. But like that would be like saying, because Post Malone came out with a song, at first that wasn't all singing and now he's basically just singing is like, oh well, he started as a rapper. No, he's been a pop singer the whole time.
Speaker 2:Like he's their music, carrie.
Speaker 3:She's been country the whole time, carrie Underwood's music, in my opinion, would be more defined as I mean country pop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's more poppy than it is country.
Speaker 3:Well, she's considered country so you're, you're putting it in the middle with country pop, but I'm saying look on Apple music.
Speaker 2:It's gonna say country under her name.
Speaker 3:I understand that, I understand that, but that's like, that's like, that's like. Well, if you were to look at Apple music, they would label NF as a Christian rapper, but he just is a rapper, right.
Speaker 2:Like, so I don't know what they would label him as.
Speaker 3:So I think they actually, I think he actually moved it and he moved it to where he's now just a rapper, but he used to be under the Christian rapper, yeah. I think hip hop would be it, but is what I'm saying is yes, I think it's in the middle for Carrie Underwood, country pop. I'm saying I think she leans more towards the pop than she does the country.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, that might be true, audibly, but she's considered, and I think the entire time, she's Taylor Swift. She's leaned way more towards the pop than she has the country, and it's just now, all of a sudden, people are like, oh, she's pop because of her music.
Speaker 2:Sierra. How many country albums do you think Taylor did Like like true country?
Speaker 4:True country, at least her first was. That's where she was, yes.
Speaker 2:That's where she was discovered at the.
Speaker 4:Bluebird.
Speaker 2:Cafe, maybe two, and then she shifted over.
Speaker 4:She started shifting, yeah you know why?
Speaker 2:because country music is. You can be half talented and get into country music. It's it.
Speaker 3:I don't use that word because it's one of the easiest genres taylor swift is so untalented, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I can't she is?
Speaker 3:I have zero clue. It's like Mick Jagger. How in the world is that guy freaking, singing? And I would agree with it's like I just it's like Taylor Swift. To me it's like hearing her music. I'm like I could hear that at any five and dime like it's. It's just, it's like borderline, just bland.
Speaker 1:It's not great I oh, if there's anybody that listens to taylor, swift listening to this they're just gonna be hot as can be not your.
Speaker 2:It makes sense. I can't. I don't listen to her much. I do like her voice. I'm not saying it's phenomenal, but she has a tone, she has a you. You know if she's singing you can tell it's Taylor. I'm not saying it's from a phenomenal like watching her on her tour and singing as much as she does and as strong as her voice is. I mean she's Listen, she's.
Speaker 3:She's put it together, she's figured out how to succeed you are also not her demographic.
Speaker 2:She's put it together, she's figured out how to succeed, not her drum demographic.
Speaker 3:She's figured it out, she's learned how to succeed. But when I see like the little tour clips, I mean I think we've discussed this before very cheesy oh yeah, they're way over the top cheesy, but I think pop I think part when I see 30 year old women like, like, like, shaking because they're at they're at her concert and can't wait to go it, it, it. Their anger inside would be a slight version of what I feel like. Why are you, why are 30 year old ladies so into?
Speaker 2:this lady. She's 34, so they grew up with her. They were 13 14 when she started. That's why and they've been following her the whole time. Yeah, well, I grew up with her. They were 13 14 when she started. That's why, and they've been following her the whole time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I grew up with hansen and I'm not that way about, because you have a fucking boy well, I'm just boys, aren't being honest?
Speaker 2:I know, but you gotta at least acknowledge there's a difference. Girls and boys are different. We don't react that way. I saw prince in concert saying all of his hits and I was just happy to hear him live. Was I crying? No, but he was like my childhood hero. I love prince. Girls get a little bit more emotional. Her songwriting, the stories about the boys and I hate it all they feel well, because you're a guy and you're 45 I want to consider myself a swifty per se.
Speaker 4:I have albums that I like more than others like there's two albums of hers that I appreciate her songwriting I do. I would say that she's a better songwriter she's a more skilled songwriter than she is a skilled singer.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's a great way of putting it.
Speaker 4:Even though she's a, you know her voice is identifiable, but she's certainly a very skilled songwriter.
Speaker 3:Yes, very good at songwriting and creating. She knows what she's doing in order to make money. I mean, obviously she's. She's a billionaire, billionaire, billionaire. But as far as talent singing wise goes, I think that's on the lower end of what she provides. Agreed, that's a good way of saying it. I agree, yeah, okay, how much more is carrie underwood than the next person in line did it say?
Speaker 4:um. So I saw an article said carrie underwood was a 140 million and then kelly clarkson like 45. I don't. That was as of december of 23 that's.
Speaker 3:That's quite the jump 140 million to 45 million that's all gotta be something.
Speaker 4:Article.
Speaker 2:That's insane, I mean country and country that I mean. She's bringing in a country crowd I'm sure she was touring. That's where. That's where Taylor's making all of her money.
Speaker 3:And I hate to say this because I don't want to dog her that much. I don't want to dog. Yeah, she's got to be making money on it, but I don't want to dog on Kelly Clark. This for this. But kelly clarkson's probably not modeling. Carrie underwood was probably modeling. She got the sunday night football contract. She's singing. She's going on tour a lot. Kelly clarkson was putting out albums and would go on tour sometimes, but she wasn't like doing she wasn't doing big stuff and so that's why she's made now with her show.
Speaker 3:I just don't think she's getting paid enough on her show to catch up Like Carrie Underwood's just got bank yeah, she's got a.
Speaker 2:she's got a good gig. She could probably drop.
Speaker 3:She's, and she's one of those voices to where she can drop an album and probably be touring to sold out shows again in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think she's an average singer too. I don't think she's great.
Speaker 3:Carrie Underwood yeah.
Speaker 1:I think she's better than Kelly Clarkson.
Speaker 3:I don't know about that. I think Kelly Clarkson is a absolutely extraordinary phenomenal karaoke singer. You're insane, you're like you, put her in a karaoke bar and she's gonna blow anybody out of the water.
Speaker 2:She does karaoke for any song bar and she's gonna blow. I mean, anybody does kelly oaky for any song. She's got an incredible range. But when?
Speaker 3:it comes to when it comes maybe effortless right here's the problem. Maybe it comes back to songwriting again and she didn't have people writing songs for her, like carrie underwood has writing for her song choice writing Carrie. Underwood songs obviously knows her and knows how to make her sound amazing as possible. Care Kelly Clarkson. On the other hand, she's put out stuff that I've gone.
Speaker 2:That is accurate, so we could be back to song. I would say she's a better singer bigger range, more effortless. Song choice is everything. Well, I haven't heard.
Speaker 3:I haven't heard it, but I know she's a great talk show host she, she can be.
Speaker 2:She could be better because she gets a little too talkative sometimes, but yeah, yeah, but she's very affable, everybody loves her and everybody's like on take talk says watch out for your songs, cause Kelly does better than the original artist Sometimes. Who's?
Speaker 3:the. Who was the next person in line? Was it that bald guy, chris?
Speaker 2:Chris, uh, daughtry, daughtry Jordan, not Jordan, sparks chris chris, uh, dotry, dotry, probably jordan, not jordan sparks, but uh, the other one that's got a talk show, jennifer hudson, she's won a oscar. Talk shows don't make a lot of money though maybe an emmy she's on. Uh, I know she's won a tony because she's done musicals like she's done theater oh it could jennifer h Hudson it?
Speaker 3:could be that. Uh, jennifer Hudson Clay. Clay Aiken God he was making a lot of money there for a while.
Speaker 2:Him and what's his name are touring together. That's their, that's their stick.
Speaker 3:Who, ruben, that's dumb, that pisses me off. I hope nobody buys tickets to that thing. Dumb, that pisses me off, I hope nobody buys tickets to that thing.
Speaker 2:That's so annoying you and your opinions are so crazy that's so irritating. What irritates you is nuts who's who's. They're just touring together because they were first and second. It's their stick, it's what they make money. I'm allowed to say it pisses me off, I know, but I don't understand.
Speaker 3:He gets so riled up. I don't get it Like who's buying tickets? They obviously put that together because somebody's buying tickets. So somebody's buying tickets to that and it just angers me in itself that people are buying tickets to that show.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like 50, 60, 70-year-old ladies.
Speaker 1:So annoying and probably some gay people because Clay's gay.
Speaker 4:All right, who's's third? And talk about cheesy, it's clay is adam lambert at 35 we forgot about him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah because he's with queen.
Speaker 4:He's to her queen and then fourth, fourth, we've got jennifer hudson at 30 and then fifth.
Speaker 3:Let's just go to five and then fifth is this.
Speaker 4:This article goes to like Catherine McPhee.
Speaker 3:I was gonna say her, because I've heard 14 yeah, because she was.
Speaker 2:She's with David.
Speaker 4:Foster, I think this article has 10 top 10 because she tours with uh if you include she's done a tv show.
Speaker 2:I think she's done theater, but she's also married to David.
Speaker 3:Foster, one of the best producers ever. Yeah, and they go out on tour together. Yeah, yep, she's got married to David Foster one of the best producers ever.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they go out on tour together. Yeah, yep, she's got a great voice. I think she could have had a huge career too. Came down to song choice Yep, yep.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we forgot about Adam Lambert, if I would have remembered him.
Speaker 3:I would have been like that's gotta be the guy. He's always been a little cheeky and cheesy to me too, but he's really talented, he is, he is and I, and for him it's like this is where it's, this is where for me it's, it comes down. I would lean more towards it's the voice, not the songwriting, because for him I don't really care what song you give that guy, he just nails it, dude he's. He's got one of those voices that he can just kind of make any song like stand out. It's kind of.
Speaker 2:It's kind of insane or are you gonna say cc?
Speaker 4:uh, I was just gonna say this is just. This article is, uh, I think it was posted may of last year, so it was the best one could find. But it goes up to 10 top 10. I don't know if you want to go through all of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, who's number six through 10. Yeah, who's six, or six or 10.
Speaker 3:So we ended up. Five was Catherine McPhee.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Six six Jordan sparks I geez, he's still above Daughtry that's doing.
Speaker 4:Seven's Daughtry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, see, he had to be in the top 10.
Speaker 4:It also says 8 million, so it must come down to, like you know, the thousands or whatever. And then um, and then we've got. Is it going to? Let me look.
Speaker 3:It's probably that guy that sang the song home, that guy that was like Dave Matthews.
Speaker 4:Oh.
Speaker 3:Phillip, Phillip yeah.
Speaker 4:Phillip Phillips.
Speaker 3:He's got to be in the top 10, right I?
Speaker 2:don't know. I think there's some singers that should have been bigger than they were, like Sierra and I.
Speaker 4:Yes, and.
Speaker 2:Josh, I think it was Josh there. Eight is Phillip Phillips, she can't look. I think was Josh there. Eight is Philip Phillips she can look, I can't find this.
Speaker 4:Yeah, the rest of this article is who?
Speaker 2:did we see that you really like she was at a little bar.
Speaker 4:Oh, Clark Beckham. Yeah, Clark Beckham's really good.
Speaker 2:He's got a great voice. I hate it when artists get stuck with certain labels and they're stuck with certain songs and they really deserve to be bigger than what they are because they have no marketing or backing, because clark beckham has got a fantastic voice. It's very distinctive and I think if you have a good tone, you know and clearly better than some it's you know who you're labeled with, who's writing songs or if the label is sticking you with just shitty songs agreed because there's there's singers out right now that have almost no talent.
Speaker 2:that should not be as huge as they are, in my opinion. I agree with that.
Speaker 3:It's all about marketing yeah, they don't really have a.
Speaker 2:They don't really have a list of like so I don't know how it got on american idol shit, but it got us to 20 minutes. Are you on the? We got this covered, are?
Speaker 3:you on the.
Speaker 4:We got this covered article yes yeah, that was the one I was looking yeah, that's.
Speaker 3:That's probably the best to actually have what they're worth.
Speaker 4:It said it top 10, but I only reached seven before I was riddled with ads and other crap.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm going to piss you off a little bit more. What do you think about a women's college basketball?
Speaker 3:Oh gosh, that did you don't want to. Uh, women's college basketball oh gosh, that did you don't want to. I'm going to piss a lot of people off if I start talking about that.
Speaker 2:Well, I can tell you this, I can tell you they, they, what was it?
Speaker 3:12.8 people, 12.8 million people watch the.
Speaker 2:LSU is huge.
Speaker 3:Okay, so just so we're clear what. What pisses me off is that people what pisses me off is that people aren't stating the fact that the reason there was 12.8 million people watching that game was because of last year's matchup between the two. They wanted to see, I mean the talk was the talk was is Iowa going to match up with LSU Right? And so when they did, everybody wanted to see how it was gonna turn out.
Speaker 2:I watched the entire game and that's why I watched it correct, so that that I think has a lot of the things going into.
Speaker 3:It is because of the situation now that caitlin just basically shut them up right, and that one, the one that wears the purple on the whole leg, what's her?
Speaker 2:name.
Speaker 3:Reese, whatever her name is Angel Reese, angel Reese. Now she did like nothing. I think she actually fouled out, or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, at the end of the game. Yeah, she didn't know. She had a game. She had 17 points and 20 rebounds. 17 points compared to how many did Kate and Clark have? Well, she had 40. One, I think. I consider that doing nothing.
Speaker 3:She had 20 rebounds. Okay, 20 rebounds, I'll give her that. That's huge. But since they lost and it was kind of shut down, but then also I think Kaitlyn's going into the WNBA this next- year. They both are or she'll sign with Ice Cube, which she should do. I don't think she should do that. I don't think she should do that.
Speaker 1:Well, they're not going to pay.
Speaker 2:WNBA players more, just because Caitlin's in there.
Speaker 3:And the average is 75,000.
Speaker 2:If they start a three-on-three women, then I think she should do it. I don't think she should play with dudes. He offered her $5 million. Right, she's going to get 75 75 000 a year in the wmba. That's average average is 75 grand.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think the highest is 246. Yeah, average is 75.
Speaker 2:She's projected to go first, angels projected to go seven, and a lot of people don't think it's so funny how people are and she may not do what she's doing now, but that's what everybody says. She's not going to do that in the wmba and that's like her thing is. Nobody thought she was going to lay down 40 on lsu either, but she laid down 40 like nothing.
Speaker 3:listen, she's, she's great. In regards to women's college basketball, I would almost rather watch a middle school boys basketball team play. Well, I'll tell you this, drew, it's not great.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you this there is a big, big gap between the good teams and the lower teams in the tournament. Because listen, because we went and saw Nebraska play Texas A&M and the basketball was horrendous.
Speaker 3:But is what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Nebraska was like 13th seed, like I don't know where the drop off is, but Iowa's fun to watch, like they. You know they're scoring 80. There's some teams that are scoring 80, 90 points on a regular basis, like they can hit shots. You know what I'm saying. The teams that are that are still scoring like they're in high school. The basketball is like I love seeing Nebraska, like they're in high school. The basketball is like I love seeing Nebraska because they're Nebraska and it was fun to watch. But the basketball, the basketball. So I'm wondering where in the seeds where the drop-off happens?
Speaker 3:There's a lot of missed shots, though.
Speaker 4:even with those good teams, a lot of missed shots though even with those good teams, there's a lot of missed shots, and that's why WNCAA they don't score as much points.
Speaker 2:I think the basket's at like nine feet right, the men's is at 10. I don't think it's the same. Oh, I thought it was the same. Will you look that?
Speaker 3:up, sierra. I know that women's volleyball. Will you look that up, sierra? I know that women's volleyball. Yeah, look that up. Look up the height of a basketball. You're sitting in here. Women's. Google it, I know that for volleyball the women's net is lower than the men's net. Oh, maybe that's what I'm getting mixed up. You had thought. No, I think it's the same, but it is lower. We found that out.
Speaker 2:That's what we were. It was a foot different, so I think the basketball hoop's the same height, which is weird because the women, like Nebraska's players, are just about as tall as men. Yeah, so it's interesting.
Speaker 1:But, that's the other thing is.
Speaker 2:women's volleyball is a blast Way more fun here's watching basketball here's yeah, I, I could see that, because it's just a lot of action when you take women's sports.
Speaker 3:And I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to say women shouldn't have sports. That's not what I'm saying I'm just the skill difference from women's basketball to men's basketball, from women's soccer to men's soccer, from women's tennis to men's tennis, from women's whatever to men's whatever. Right, it's astronomically a gap. And here's why, and I'll and I'll explain it they put a 15, a a you soccer boys team against the U S national team right. U S women's national team lost five to two. Okay, they put, uh, I don't think.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that's all skill.
Speaker 3:I think that's when I think that's physicality when women, that's not all skill when serena williams and uh, right, and once again physicality in the teenage years, when they were popping off right when they were in there like 18, they said we could beat any men's player under two under rank 200. So they took the 204th ranked male and played him against both of them. The guy won six to one and six to two right because of physicality, it's, it's just the skills there.
Speaker 2:You just can't compare the two. It's apples. But if you hate when people. That's why I don't think caitlin clark should go in the three on three with men. She's not a man, correct? Like she's a fantastic, correct women's. Physically, they're going to dominate her because she's a woman, because of the her, her physical being, because men are just physically stronger. But how do you?
Speaker 3:how do you? That's why I'm like don't physical aspect dude. It's apples and oranges when it's tennis. Is it because the ball's coming in at a faster rate? Well, because men are just stronger, yes.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:Do you see what I'm saying? Like a serving is like there's no. There's no bodies, they're serving 140.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is bodies against body because they're they're serving at like 140 miles an hour.
Speaker 3:It's not like basketball, where you've got a body against a body guarding somebody. Right, I can understand the physicalness of that. But with tennis it's like you know, but what? I don't get is when these women say they can do it, or, like people have said, kaitlyn Clark could play in the NBA right now.
Speaker 2:It's like dude no because it's apples and oranges. It's two different sports.
Speaker 3:I think the commentator that said the only time she would score is if she got fouled and went to the free throw line is pretty dang accurate. Yeah, this is probably pretty close. Yeah, because it's not even going to be close. So, all that being said, can I watch women's sports? Maybe some golf? But even then, even then, let's take golf. You're still looking at guys driving the ball 350 yards off the tee, compared to a woman's probably landing about 300. She's already starting off 50 yards negative off the first shot in golf.
Speaker 2:It's just not the same. Okay, so this is what I think. I just looked it up, but the hoop is at 10 feet for the women, correct as well? Yeah, I think. If you and I could be wrong, I'm sure there's an argument for it. They are clearly a lot shorter.
Speaker 3:Is the three point line closer I?
Speaker 2:don't know, it doesn't matter for Caitlin, because she's going at the logo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she shoots like curry.
Speaker 3:And I think the three point line is in for maybe a little bit Women's, and that's why she?
Speaker 2:tries to shoot back further is because she wants to show she can shoot, but I but but don't you think because of their stature this is all physicality, that has nothing to do with their ability I think they can be as skilled or are as skilled. I mean you have dame is like six one, but he's a point guard, so it goes up from there, so up to 7 foot. Wemby's 7'4", so you got 6 feet. Most players like LeBron 6'8". You have some women that reach that height, like Nebraska volleyball players. They're like 6'4", 6'3", some ones like 6'5". That's like guard height in the NBA, correct? I think that's probably center height, for unless you just get an anomaly or a women's center that like the volleyball net I'm, I think we would maybe view it as more skilled if they lowered that to nine feet, eight and a half feet, where they could actually dunk Like I. And I think it would be fair, because it's all apples and oranges, if the men's at 10 and they can dunk, arguably the women should be shortened because they're naturally shorter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's kind of like with the volleyball and then I think right, then I think you would.
Speaker 2:then their percentage would probably go up. They'd be able to dunk and you'd probably you may may see them as skilled as the men, but just as women. That's the skill level does that make sense?
Speaker 3:maybe, I don't know. I mean, like why?
Speaker 2:why do we have it at 10 when they're six, seven inches shorter than men?
Speaker 3:like yeah, I'm not even looking at the fact that they can't dunk or anything. I'm just off strictly watching some of the defense that was happening in some of the wnca games. The tournament absolutely horrendous. Like what are we even?
Speaker 2:doing. I mean, isn't that coaching? I mean, they can move, they're fast some of, or they're not any faster. I think men again are going to be faster, just based on physicality, maybe, maybe. But women against women they're going to be about the same speed. So is that coaching? Is that basketball skill?
Speaker 3:Their movement and with men it's more defined, more controlled defense. As to where the ladies that I saw in some of the clips that I've seen for wnca, because I'm not gonna front like I'm out there watching wnca basketball because I'm not, it's just not fun for me, so but and I did not watch the lsu iowa game didn't so, but I enjoyed watching him when and there's people, there's people that did it was the first full game that I think I've ever but again reason of watched was because they played last year
Speaker 4:and you're watching that and you're watching.
Speaker 2:It was all based on last year, especially with what's all the drama? Face and all the drama, yeah absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3:So when I watch it, there's just no control, their there's, their bodies, like their hands, are just going everywhere. And it's like maybe it is because you know, because of the physicality, the strength, the, the quickness of speed, that it just seems more defined defense, as to where the women aren't as defined in their defense, it just looks sloppy to me. Right, it's, it's pretty bad. But I mean again, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if it, but then I think to myself, would it make it more exciting? Maybe? But then I also think you would probably have a handful, if not more than a handful, at least half of the people going well, you don't need to lower the hoop for us. And it's like, okay, come on. I mean, but but let's look at, we're trying to get you guys to get more viewers so you guys can actually get paid more.
Speaker 2:But it but it's not even that it's. It's almost to me like a fairness thing, like their stature correct is smaller and shorter than men like, so why is it at 10 feet? If we're lowering the volleyball net because they're shorter, then why are we keeping the basketball at 10 feet? Sierra, you're a woman yeah, I just.
Speaker 3:We just need you to agree with us, and then we can move on does that make any sense, mind you mind you we're. We're saying these things knowing Sierra's sitting here.
Speaker 1:It's not like we're afraid to say that we're not trying to be misogynistic or anything like that. Yeah, we're not trying to get. It's pure science.
Speaker 2:We're just talking about it.
Speaker 3:This is what we're discussing. We're not saying women can't play sports, but anyways, what's your thought on it?
Speaker 4:Genetics are so different between men and women and as you guys are talking more of my math, brain started circling. Take that tallest man, shortest man, average height man. Do the same thing for women. Man. Shortest man average height man. Do the same thing for women, and that's. You know how much lower or how much I would adjust the net for women's basketball and I would expect that it would be lower. And so if all the standards, the proportions for women were adjusted, maybe we would see a different game and maybe even different coaching. That's a whole other thing. How are women being coached versus men? And I feel like there's a lot of different factors that go into that. I think women can be super skilled, I think men can be super skilled, but I think it just looks different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't like the whole. I don't like when well, I don't want to say smart, but like professional athletes start saying you know Caitlin in the NBA, or if it's like just, I think that's just for ears and clicks and views and all that. Yeah, Like I don't. That's been proven. Let's move past that. I don't like the comparison between men and women's sports. It's two different things. Sierra said it. The genetics is so different in muscle, you know, and the way everything is distributed and the height advantage.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, josh has a friend who he has. His friend has three brothers. They all wrestle and, like, the second to youngest one is almost the weight that I am just about and he's like lean, like, and I'm like shorter, curvier, have more muscle, but he, you know, he's kind of a stream bean. He's not too much more taller or much more much taller than I am. It's just like. That's just how it is.
Speaker 2:Right, it's just all how it's distributed. Our bodies are just different.
Speaker 3:The craziest part of what you just said is Josh has friends. That's all he heard. I heard that I was. I was so shocked over here I was like son of a bitch. That guy does have friends. That's crazy, that's insane.
Speaker 2:I mean, when you have wimby that's seven, four, seven, five and his arm, his wingspan, like he can stand and just put the ball in, just about. He is not leaping real high, correct? Or LeBron? He's 6'8". There may be a few women that are 6'8", but even you don't see women slamming, and if they are, it's like with their fingertips, it's not so, even if they're the same height, I don't know if they can get the hops up. So why are the? Why is it at 10 feet? Like? I'm almost surprised that I want to check it again, but it says right, let me see, okay.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's just what it is, because they have to play on the same hoop Shit. But what really, I don't know. I think you're right. I think if it was lowered to that I think both of you were right in saying that I think it would change the game for them if there was an adjustment per the fact that it's women and men. But whether it would make it more exciting or not, that still remains to be, you know? I mean I don't know. But let's look at the one sport that we know they adjust it right the net for volleyball. We know they adjust it for women and it's lower than it is for men, and we, I think, can all agree that women's volleyball is more exciting to watch than men's volleyball.
Speaker 2:So, there's one. Yeah, it's all 10 feet.
Speaker 3:There's one factor there of the volleyball net is lowered and it is more exciting to watch than men's volleyball. So if we did that for other sports, would it be as exciting? I don't know. I think I mean I think men's volleyball.
Speaker 2:I've not watched a lot of men's volleyball. I know that they can leap out of the building like some of those guys are insane and they're, as they're, like guard size. I'm sure there's some that are, you know, like forward size. You know they're still pretty tall, but the hops they get up and then the power that they slam is incredible. But the women the women is just in college anyways and they just came out with a professional league.
Speaker 2:You know everything is a point, so it's fast paced league. You know everything is a point, so it's fast paced. So if you serve in the net, the other team gets a point, instead of how we did it in high school where you know you got to hit it. You know, hit the floor on the other side and they, they moved a couple several years ago, probably maybe 20 years ago, I don't know when they changed it, but you just you're, it's high scoring. But I've seen some incredible volleys. I've seen some incredible digs from nebraska and other college women's and it the skill level is insane and it's so fun to watch do you think it has to do with the sport, is it?
Speaker 3:I'm not trying to be like an ass here, but like, let's just take like like basketball or football. It's like a man's sport, right, like it's just a man. And I'm not saying women can't do it, but it was like it's just. It just seems like a man's thing to do. Volleyball doesn't seem like a man's thing to do, but then we wanted to play it and we're jumping up and slamming the ball, but the women are like really good at it, we're like swimming like like synchronized swimming.
Speaker 3:If I watch some dudes, if I watch some dudes do synchronized swimming, the entertainment level is just not going to be there. But you watch some women do it. You'd be like that's pretty dope, pretty dope looking right like that should be like gymnastics. I don't want to see dudes doing gymnastics. That's just not exciting to me.
Speaker 2:But you watch the girls do gymnastics and you're like no, I mean, look at the women's gymnastics for olympia, for olympics, you're like on the edge of your seat, wanting to watch it that's something that I watch
Speaker 3:I don't know when it comes to the men, I'm not sitting around to watch that I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2:I think there's something to it. I don't know if it's marketing or the rating, I don't know, because I remember in 1994 me and shelly um watched the 94 I think it's it's 94 lily hammer, winter olympics and we were glued to the figure skating and I think it was just a figure skating and some of the like deluge and some of the other fun, the bobsled or whatever some of those were like, it was really good that year and the ice skating it again.
Speaker 2:Like you said, the women seem so skilled that that's what I want to watch I don't know if or couples I'm not watching men's, you know, even though they're skilled. Yep, it does seem, and I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3:I don't know I don't know if it's a marketing. Women's sport, and then there's men's sports and we've just decided to give.
Speaker 2:I mean, like in this country, sex is the opportunity right and so now it's like I think in this country women's soccer has been bigger because they've won multiple world multiple golds, yeah, and I think, a World cup somewhere along the way. Oh, the women here in the United States have just been more skilled than the men. The men can't keep up with the premier leagues over in Europe and stuff like that.
Speaker 3:Correct, and I think that's just based on how they're built, not more skilled, because if you played the two together the men would probably crush the women. But we're talking about skilled as far as being in their leagues More skilled, the women are more skilled in yeah, yeah, yeah, the men are skilled in their league.
Speaker 2:Yes, so again, you don't compare I don't ever compare, you can't compare the two. It's it's apples and oranges, no matter how you slice it. That's right.
Speaker 4:That's right you like you're so proud of yourself for that you like that?
Speaker 3:that was good okay, we can, uh, we can move past this all right, so I'm watching a tiktok today this is more misogynistic news, I think oh no, not necessarily misogynistic, but this girl says have you guys seen the tiktok and it's been taken down now of the crop top thing supposedly some gal or crop top and was showing her and then and showing her midsection, and then it's been taken down. And then somebody did a video and said why was it taken down? I have no idea. And then somebody did somebody did a video talking about how women or men or whoever whoever you are, women or men should wear clothes that are only flattering to them. And the woman said I can't believe that person made that video. It was a woman who made the video and the, and the gal that was talking was saying I can't believe that woman made this video and put it on on social media in today's day and age, in 2024, and underneath her thing. And I think I sent you this video.
Speaker 3:I think I sent it to you and, kevin, yeah, you do underneath it for her header whatever, when they can put what they want to write. She wrote wear whatever you want right now. Do I think that the comment of you should only wear things that are flattering to your figure is the right way of saying it? No, I don't think that's the right way of saying it, but to say that anybody should be able to wear whatever they want I absolutely disagree with what do you disagree?
Speaker 2:And I'm not questioning or disagreeing or agreeing I'm, I just that would be like saying I'm okay to go out wearing a skirt you know, some people think that that's fine no, it's not sorry some people say it is I don't care people that think that I think, I don't care if a guy wears a skirt. I think you look like an idiot.
Speaker 3:I think that I think that they can do it. I think that a woman wearing very tight skirt showing all the angles of the curves of the curves.
Speaker 3:I think you should rethink your process, like I don't. I'm not saying it has to be flattering for you to wear it. I'm just saying that to say the comment of you can wear whatever you want. I mean, there's some. You got to have some common sense in what you're doing. You can't just wear whatever you want. And then then we end up getting people like what we see in some of those bike rides over in Portland that they do Right the naked ones or just any of them, the the pride ones the naked ones, the everything.
Speaker 2:Do you think it's just because they look stupid? Or I'm not sure I'm agreeing. I don't think it has to do with whether you're flattering or not.
Speaker 3:I just think that it could even go that way, like you just said, like that doesn't look good. Do you think it's a?
Speaker 2:perception like if a girl wears a super, like a mini skirt, like where their cooch is like inches from rethink your position, even if it looks.
Speaker 3:Is that because you?
Speaker 2:think they should be a little more modest, or do you think you need to be careful because of the perception that you may have, that somebody may have about you?
Speaker 3:in your bedroom. You can wear that skirt all day long if you're gonna step outside, but I don't understand, but why?
Speaker 2:and go out into the world? Because you're concerned about how they're gonna be perceived.
Speaker 3:I think that there's, there's people, you just think people should be more modest that. Don't need to see you wearing that and so you should rethink it do you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:I'm not sure and they could look good in it. I mean it behind closed doors, like my it'd be. Let's just take, for instance, my wife. If she were to wear a skirt that is so high that her butt, cheeks and her coochie were almost being seen or are being seen, I would probably say rethink your outfit before we step out of this house. Right, right, that is for me to see, that is for us to wear inside the house, not for you to wear out in public.
Speaker 2:Because you just don't want your ass out.
Speaker 3:Yes, so if you want to. So I'm not just saying it has to be flattering, because it could be, it could fit her great, right, my wife could look amazing in it, but it's just not something you but you don't want somebody looking at your wife and thinking if you want to use the words you can wear whatever you want in your house, then that's fine, but once, once you use, you can wear whatever you want and you're basically saying it like whenever you want.
Speaker 3:No, I think that, whether it's flattering or whether it's you're showing too much or whether whatever, I think there should be some decisions that are made. You can't just say you can wear whatever you want out and about.
Speaker 2:I mean you can say that. I mean people are doing it, people are going to do it and that's fine.
Speaker 3:But I mean when people, I mean I don't, I don't necessarily see anything wrong, even with the comment of that you should only wear what is flattering to you, because to me, I only want to wear what's flattering to me. I don't want to wear something on me that I'm going. Oh, like, if I put on a t-shirt and it's too tight and just showing everything on my stomach, right, I'm like rethink this process, right, like, does everybody not think that way?
Speaker 2:So we just well, I think this is how I think. If I see somebody, I'm a bigger dude, so I'm okay to say if, if, if you're a bigger person.
Speaker 3:You just assume that if you wear us extra small shirt, that everybody wants to see that what's going on now. Am I wrong? Like you probably shouldn't do that.
Speaker 2:Some people just don't care how they're. I mean, they're a lot. Well, what was I going to say? I may think if I see somebody that's dressed a little funny, I mean, the best place is in Vegas to see this. It's the best place. When Shelly and I were there in 2010, I think we sat at New York, new Yorkork, in their little new york strip, where it looks like it's like a downtown, and we were sitting having pizza, and it was about six, seven o'clock, and we just sat and watched couple after couple come from their room at new york, new york, and they were going out to find a club, okay, so it was just a parade yep, of boyfriend and girlfriend, yep, and what we saw was is that the girls usually look pretty cute.
Speaker 2:Some of them are a little scandalous, yeah, I don't want to say underdressed a little clad yeah, and then the guys just look like doofs, that I think we probably saw a total of two where they, like both, looked really sharp. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so we were sitting there and just giving shit to everybody. It was just, you know, just evaluating everybody.
Speaker 2:So I so like he shouldn't be wearing that he shouldn't, like he needs to go upstairs change those shoes. So is that kind of what you're thinking? That's more of like a yeah, like, like a like, but people think that they look good.
Speaker 3:I and what I'm saying is are there people out there that just think well, who's to me to say what they need, they should wear and what they should?
Speaker 2:wear. Yeah, the majority, they just wear.
Speaker 4:They can wear whatever they want.
Speaker 3:Are there really people out there that are saying that yeah the majority. No, Now listen, I'm not going to go up and tell them they shouldn't be wearing that, Right, sure, but in my mind and I'll speak it out of my mind my thought is they shouldn't be wearing that.
Speaker 2:And you really maybe should think about what you wear. I think that you should think about that, but that's, and she's like she's like what did she think was going to happen?
Speaker 3:of course she was going to get canceled, and she's deleted her video since. And I'm like what? What would you delete your video for? You're just stating that people should only wear clothes if it's flattering to them. If you feel that way, then say that.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah I don't have a problem with that if? She was just making a simple statement. Because crop tops, can you know? I go back and forth on crop tops, not that I'm like my girls wear.
Speaker 3:Michaela wears shirts that are just just above her belly and they don't really bother me at all I think she was wearing a crop top and then she had kind of a belly on her, and so the gal was saying you should only wear things that are flattering to you. Because she was, so she wasn't terribly hanging out well I mean we're in the age of?
Speaker 2:I didn't see the video everybody's you know everybody's beautiful and you know we've gotten to the point where if you're overweight, you be overweight. You're beautiful the way you are and we're ignoring health. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think that's the kind of probably where that the tiktoker that you sent us is kind of in that realm correct.
Speaker 2:Um, stating an opinion about, I just think you should look, you know, just maybe wear something a little more flattering. I don't know if that's necessarily bad. She should have been canceled but that's kind of the state of, well, listen, we're. Social media is basically today's uh, town square where we used to gather and hang people and say guilty, stone them or hang them or whatever, and it's it's obviously out of control. I just listened to a podcast about that how we have a thousand friends and some of us are really lonely. Or you can get on and just scream about shit and there's, you know, none, no consequences. Or you can get online and just bully people, like it's a very loud, terrible town square. So, um, I don't know, do I think it in my head that you probably shouldn't be wearing that? But it's like you little look a little goofy. I mean, they're prerogative. I mean, if they think they look cute. Yes, do you.
Speaker 3:I mean, I do think it in my head, though.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think that in my head. Yeah, but they can wear whatever they want. I would never say you can't wear that, maybe you shouldn't wear that, maybe you shouldn't wear that. But I would never vocalize it to that person, correct?
Speaker 3:but I do want to come on here and say that you really like, just think about your choices before you leave the house. You know what I'm saying? Let's, let's, not be if you're listening to this and you're one of those people that's just putting on that extra small shirt when you should be wearing a medium or a large.
Speaker 1:Like rethink your choices, you know, because everybody doesn't need to see your shit hanging out. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I just I don't get people that do that. I'm not trying to be a dick or anything when I say that. It's just. I don't need to go to the store and see all your shit hanging out of your shirt, go buy the appropriate size shirt. That's why they make sizes, you know what I'm saying otherwise we would just make everything as an extra small and just go yeah, you're just supposed to wear it really tight. We're not doing that like there's a reason. They have other sizes. Sierra, what do you think about all this?
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding. Could you imagine?
Speaker 3:if companies were like fuck it, we're just making smalls.
Speaker 2:That's it. It's one size fits all.
Speaker 4:They do have one size fits all clothes out there. Could you imagine hats and socks's one size fits all? They do have one size fits all clothes out there.
Speaker 3:Could you imagine?
Speaker 4:hats and socks.
Speaker 3:One size fits all. Could you imagine me coming to the office just with a small tank top on small white beater on Dude? I wear a double X, bro, a small. Are you kidding me? I hope to God people don't cover that office.
Speaker 2:Chris, a friend of ours, gave me an adidas top and it was a medium. I'm like immediately said this is not gonna fit yeah, it's not gonna fit. He had some pants that were large, that were sick hiking pants, so I took those. The medium was cut short. So I said, if I wear this this, this is how it's going to look. And I hung out my belly a little bit, which is not a pretty sight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was not cute. So then Michaela and Sierra put it on and it's cut right at their waist. And this is a man's shirt, Like I don't know what Adidas was thinking about, but it's really short, Like it's barely comes over her pants. I put it on, I'm like there's no way I'm wearing this it fits me perfectly, besides the sleeves. Besides the sleeves, it's almost a woman's cut.
Speaker 3:So it fits her perfectly, but chris gave it originally to you yeah, because it's a man's top.
Speaker 2:He got it for a gift that that's his, that's because he's shorter. So generally he's a medium because he's shorter than I am, but this particular top was kind of crazy, like I don't.
Speaker 4:I put it on like some weird like short and wide stuff, sometimes my belly was hanging out.
Speaker 2:I mean like this is not.
Speaker 3:I mean, even if it was, did those who wear smaller clothing when they shouldn't. Right, are they like? Do they go to the you know like, say they're like a size like seven shoe. Do they go to the shoe place and be like give me a foot into a five, give me a four and a half, and they're like but you're not going to, don't tell me I don't fit, give me a four and a half like no, you're going and buying the appropriate shoe size.
Speaker 3:Do the same thing with clothes, with your pants by the appropriate size. You know what I'm saying. Like you don't go buy a, you don't go buy a beanie cap and you're like, give me that. You know, double extra large. When you got a tiny head, it's going to it's going to roll over you. Like you won't be able to see anything. It's going to cover over you like a condom, right. So it's there's certain things that we do do that with, so why are we not doing it with clothing?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. Yeah, instead, it's like Annie, we'll go shopping and she's like she needs mediums, right, right. And so she's looking and there's like no mediums but there's a ton of, you know, extra large and double extra large. Are all the heavyset women buying the mediums? Probably because you see it out there, when you go out in the public, you see them wearing the mediums and they're hanging out and it's like you know what, if you'd start buying the actual size, that would leave the sizes for the other people. You know I'm not going into a freaking. You know kids gap and buying you know T2s, t2, tank tops being like fuck these kids that want that shit.
Speaker 1:I'm buying them up.
Speaker 3:I'll hang out of this no, I'm going to the store and buying the appropriate size. I'm just saying I get it, you know. All right, come on geez okay.
Speaker 2:Well, we're right at an hour, so it's probably a perfect time to perfect. Well, let's finish it off like we like to do.
Speaker 3:You know what we didn't do today. That we should have done, but you didn't have one ready. Is the segment of um. Am I in the wrong or whatever? Am I the asshole?
Speaker 2:that would have been oh yeah, I mean, it's pretty easy to find one, but that would be another 20 minutes, it's not a big deal, so let's let's end on, uh, something we're thankful or um grateful for, grateful for Grateful for.
Speaker 1:So I mean do you want me to go first? Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's great, I can go first. I am thankful and grateful for something that's already happened, and that is for getting a PC. I've been wanting one for a while. I have it now. I'm excited to have it and I've told my wife probably one of the best purchases I've ever purchased myself.
Speaker 2:This is for gaming primarily.
Speaker 3:Yeah, gaming. So I still have the PS5, but I love the PC. It's smooth, it's quick. I get to play with my kids, which is the best part, because that's the best part. They both play on pc. And then they play these games and they're like dad, you would love this game. And I'm like okay, is it on playstation? They're like oh, no, it's just, that's probably what you should have led with, so it's it's yeah, yeah, right, so it's great, it's good.
Speaker 3:The second part of is that I get to play with my kids the first part is that I got a sweet looking pc. It is that I get to play with my kids. The first part is that I got a sweet looking PC. It is pretty sick so uh, but yeah I love it because I get. So they both have a PC and now I have one, so now we can play games together.
Speaker 2:I love that too.
Speaker 3:Super, super fun. Um, so it's I mean that's really.
Speaker 2:That is really kind of why you bought. I mean I know you wanted one, yeah, but you really wanted to play with your boys. Yep and um, you're finding that it's going to be amazing on cod, but your boys. You're already playing multiple games with them yep, so it's great.
Speaker 3:I love that you did that. I am, so I'm I'm thankful for that I mean one thankful for my pc and two that I get to play with my boys while using it.
Speaker 2:So I've got mine. I've got mine.
Speaker 3:Well, if you even say, josh, right now, I'm going to don't be, don't be, don't. Be thankful for that.
Speaker 4:Cross my nose Like if I say that it's going to have a cow. I, uh. I'm thankful for people reminding me to not work so hard oh good, and to unplug sometimes and actually take my breaks, because I tend to overwork myself and I'm like mentally usually a work than play person to a fault a lot of the time fault a lot of the time and um, yeah, I'm thankful that my family's on my ass about that.
Speaker 2:Very good. I am uh thankful that sierra and josh are finally getting xfinity at their house what are you? There's an appointment on tuesday what?
Speaker 3:the phone call has been made.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is insane for this, because now I will be able to play with my son-in-law and we'll be able to play with him and basically harass him to the point where he may not want to play some of the greatest news I've ever heard now what I'd really be thankful for is if he were able to get a pc that he wants. So then sierra could play on the ps5 and we could all play together.
Speaker 3:But baby steps, baby start with the xfinity is perfect, uh, the fact that you haven't had that and haven't been able to game. What in the hell are you doing? Uh, just takes a phone call. Now we're there. It comes monday, right monday tuesday this is great, this is amazing this is good good times and I it's just one step closer to me being able to call josh a bitch times Right While. And have him play with us While liberating for the democracy. Right, exactly Right. So that's great.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm thankful for. That's awesome, Because I've been I don't know. Well, I think I have vocalized how much I want them to be able to play with us, or me just play with him, or and or Sierra, like I've pretty much harassed him pretty hard about it, but it's all out of love and togetherness.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Probably to the point of annoyance, but it's all out of love and togetherness, accurate, accurate. That's great. Like like me and drew. Me and kevin were just talking about this the other day, about or we, we were talking about it too, or maybe it was just with you, but, um, no, I think I talked about kevin when he was up here for my birthday. How it's really, I think we, it doesn't matter, god, I keep going backwards. Yeah, it's great that we're able to stay in touch as much as we can, just hanging out and like talking on the phone I couldn't do and just talk. Yeah, but the fact that we have a game to play, we're able to stay like we know what's going on in each other's lives with this thing that we're able to like have an activity to do, and I'm hoping that have the same thing with Josh. That's what I'm excited about. Yes, is that we're going to be able to do this. Talking about this.
Speaker 4:You may have talked to.
Speaker 3:Kevin too, but what I thought was cool is is, over the years, for you and Kevin the staying in touch was maybe limited. But, it seems to me that since all three of us well, mainly you two, because you guys have been friends forever, since the two of you have gotten PlayStation and we all play together that the relationship has gotten closer over these last however many months. And also, from what I've seen, it seems like he's coming up more to visit and we're going down there because there's six months, the conversations are easily had because we're playing online now.
Speaker 3:Right, so it it is really cool when people say you know, oh well, you're gaming, or and I know some people don't like it my brother's one of them. He's not a big fan of gaming, right, um, but reality is is one, gaming is one of the only things that works both sides of your brain when you're doing it. Um, I think singing is as well, but it's really good for you to do that. It's, you know, mentally, um. And then two, you, these relationships.
Speaker 3:I mean I've got friendships with guys that I've been playing with for years, I mean like eight, nine, ten years, and it's like if I ever met them in real life, we'd probably just be buddies, and like, no, because we've created these friendships and we played, and you know, there may be some stints where weeks or months go by, but you just get right back on and you're like your buddies again, right. So I mean, yeah, it's, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool and to see you're in kevin's and how it. You know, yeah, you guys are friends and you guys did talk, but how much it's it's been more.
Speaker 2:We can do that multiple times a week. Now we're talking and socializing, so my thought is is that I'll be able to do that with josh too. He'll just be able to hear how we interact with each other, which is how he interacts with his buddies, and we'll just be able to talk how we interact with each other, which is how he interacts with his buddies, and we'll just be able to talk shit just talk like we do, again shocked that he has buddies.
Speaker 3:That's he's got.
Speaker 4:He's very social, oh my gosh he's got a lot of literally everywhere we go and he talks you know somebody? I mean we've talked about this.
Speaker 2:He he talks way better than I do. Like he's, he can just start up a conversation. I've joked multiple times about how he's talked to my brother-in-laws more since he's been around than I have in 30 years, cause that's just how he is and it's nothing against my brothers, it's more on me. He can just talk to anybody. He's got connections. He's been offered multiple jobs by multiple people randomly just because he's super sociable and affable. He just does it with ease and that is not me. I need one on one and a subject.
Speaker 3:Let me into your brain.
Speaker 2:But small talk is important. I get it. I'm not good at it. He's great. I mean, the kid's been offered multiple jobs in the last couple of months and it boggles my mind. But it's who you know, how you talk to them, how do you interact with them, how you stay in touch with them you know he comes off obviously in a pleasant way because you know and and bright because he's getting you know offers.
Speaker 2:So I've never been just offered a job. I mean I was practically begging you for a job. So the timing just worked.
Speaker 3:It also comes down, you know, to. You know how you tickle the nuts.
Speaker 2:And you're really good at it Just in the right spot.
Speaker 3:Just the right touch. Tired.
Speaker 2:What were you going to say, Sierra?
Speaker 4:What was I going to say? He, oh, I was going to say, like just the way he is with it, like he's super extroverted. Like we go to a grocery store he sees someone he knows and he tries to make a point, to say hi, even if it's quick I am the complete opposite. Yeah, I'm at the grocery store and I see someone I know I I try to avoid them at all costs.
Speaker 4:Yeah, my wife will actually say to me don't make eye contact yeah, just because I'm like sometimes it's just I'm on a mission, but also I'm like, yeah, we're gonna be like nice and cordial to each other, but what am I gonna say to you? That's worth anything in like five seconds, but josh will be like, hey, you know there's some dudes where I've ran into stores where we both do the guy and that's enough.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, that's perfect, and then there's no like if I ran into Dan hold it's a 20 minute conversation. Yeah, if I I've seen like Josh Morris, it's a and it's an acknowledgement and we're both out. There's none of neither one of us want any part of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm, and we're both out. Neither one of us want any part of it and it doesn't have to do with those guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can talk with Josh and I can talk with Dan. I don't want to, not in that situation. Usually I'm wanting to get home. I don't want any social. When I want social, I'll text you and tell you I want social.
Speaker 3:Listen, I can talk with pretty much anybody. You can do a really good too. I don't want to Right Like if I can Josh wants.
Speaker 4:He's a people person, he wants to, that's like super extrovert.
Speaker 2:I really, really admire that about him. And he's. He does it great with kids too. That's why he's such a good football coach and like a youth group leader, because he just can talk to him about I, I don't know, I don't have that skill. I don't have that skill sometimes I wish I did, I just don't. So it is what it is. Yeah, so anyways. And then there's certain situations when a one-on-one I can get real chatty, but not at a grocery store no, it's not the time for it, nope.
Speaker 3:I'm in and I'm out. Correct, get in and out.
Speaker 2:Michaela, you just popped in here at the very end of the podcast. Would you like to share anything about what you're thankful for since you're in here?
Speaker 3:yeah, and it better not be Taylor Swift, thank you. Thank you for saying that.
Speaker 1:Another notch on why I like you the most um this is yeah, have a seat um something that I'm thankful slash grateful for is um, I'm really looking to my being back into my guitar lessons. I start those back again on Friday and I just got myself a new amp for my new guitar, so I'm looking forward to seeing my guy again and learning more. Very cool. I'm happy that he's finally off tour and can be able to do that with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause you've kind of been itching to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's good. I like it. Yep, okay, good stuff. Oh, that's it. It's good to hear from you for a second, michaela.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:Thanks for joining us today, cc Yep. Joining us today, cc Yep, and they pretty much agreeing with everything we said as a woman, yep.
Speaker 3:Well, we gave her the eye. We're like you. Better agree with it, or you?
Speaker 1:better agree with that.
Speaker 3:We're going to have to edit it and cut that part out, okay, well we'll catch y'all later.
Speaker 2:See ya All right, thank you.
